Genocide never just happens. There is always a set of circumstances which occur or which are created to build the climate in which genocide can take place. The ten stages of genocide are; classification, symbolisation, discrimination, dehumanisation, organisation, polarisation, preparation, persecut...
Please remind me, weren't there a couple of Israeli politicians calling Palestinians human animals and asking to drop nuclear bombs on top of them.
Or weren't some far right looting trucks full of humanitarian aid for famine ridden Gaza.
I can definitely continue this list or you can do yourself a favour by reading some Wikipedia page on the subject, and while at it you can also check (pick a random non affiliated with Israel human rights organisation) think of Israel's treatment of Palestinians.
Hm, I wonder why Palestinians wanted the settler-colonial state of Israel to not exist. Hm. Could it be that the state of Israel has been systematically invading and stealing Palestinian land? And that they've been quite vocal about their goals to do so?
Would you also denounce Native Americans for wanting the United States to not exist anymore? Were they wrong for their violent retaliations in the 1800s? After years of genocide, lies, and enslavement?
It makes sense to support the Arabs who got displaced from their homes by Israeli settlers, as well as Jews who were forced out of theirs due to their religion and had nowhere else to go but Israel, but if you're a member of one of those groups and can't empathise with the other (eg Hamas, IDF and their supporters) then you should get no sympathy at all.
So you're saying you have no sympathy for Palestinians who dislike the IDF, who have been continuously murdering them and stealing their land? That is what you're saying right?
I'm saying I have no sympathy for Palestinians who can't sympathise with other people who were forced from their homes, or Israelis who can't do the same. They are free to dislike the IDF, but using them as an excuse to hate Jews and/or Israelis is no better than the people who hate all Palestinians and/or Arabs masking or justifying it with their hatred of Hamas.
It's not the same, because Israel are systematic colonizers. IDF acts on behalf of Israel. Sure, not all Israelis have the same political opinions, but ultimately they are living in a country that is committed to genocide of Palestinians. Lots of countries hate the United States for extremely valid reasons and I do have sympathy and ultimately agree with their hatred of Americans, even though I am one.
I believe it is the same and that your anti-zionism has ulterior motives, most likely hatred of the US which I guess is more valid than it being antisemitism, as in that part of the world the "original inhabitants" are whoever you want them to be to prove your point given the extensive recorded history, so applying that standard to generations of Israelis is no different to applying it to the Arabs or Crusaders or Romans or Judeans or Greeks or Assyrians or whoever else lived there at whatever point and genocided the people who came before them (frankly you see it everywhere with Celts genociding the people who came before them in Ireland, most of the Americas being a huge genocide-fest pre-Columbus, warlords casually killing millions in China, Armenia genociding Azeris then getting genocided back very recently)
Rather than looking to the past, which is messy, look at the situation now. Most people want peace, and most people were, or know people who have been, forcibly relocated on both sides, and so neither the IDF or Hamas act on behalf of those people, despite having control over their homes (and although Hamas aren't legally recognised and as much as you hate to admit it, they do control most of Gaza) - they both have the abysmal approval ratings to prove it, and they're both way along the flowchart in this post.
My disdain for the United States is not a secret nor is it an ulterior motive. It's just the logical extension of all the atrocities that have been and continue to be committed by the US as a colonizing force and as a world superpower.
I don't oppose Israel's genocide because I hate the US - I hate the US because it supports and inflicts genocide.
This isn't ancient history, Israelis have been enacting and vocalizing a plan to colonize Palestine since the middle of the last century. The idea of Zionism was around before then, but that's when it took place. There are still people alive who survived the Nakba. The colonialism is the situation right now.
If you're a member of one of those groups [Palestinian, Israeli], who can't sympathize with the other [Israeli, Palestinian]... e.g. IDF (Israelis who can't sympathize with Palestinians), Hamas (Palestinians who can't sympathize with Israelis)
Ah I see, honestly my interpretation still stands. Not every Palestinian who can't sympathize with Israelis is Hamas. Hamas was an example given (because that's what e.g. means), but based on what they said, they're referring to any Palestinian who lacks sympathy. They didn't say only Hamas. And this poster is conflating those two separate but overlapping groups of people, which is also fucked up.
It's clear that Israel has bigger guns. Why would you even mention that? The question here is morality, not munitions.
By the way, how many of the dead actually wished for all Jews to die? Of course most of them didn't. Of course most of them just wanted to live their lives in peace. Sigh.
We don't hate Jews, but we do hate Israel. The two things are in no way synonymous. There are non Zionist Jews, and there are non Jewish Israelis. Some Israelis are against what their state is doing too, regardless if they actually are Jewish or not.
Although for some reason some people in my country definitely hate both. I have spoken to a friend of mine yesterday who said he wanted the Jews gone. I don't think I should continue trusting that guy.