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Despise beyond belief? Hurting animals. Hunting and fishing are fine, I'm talking about kicking puppies type thing
boy do i have a movie for you
almost everyone pays to have animas abused and hurt for them. Thinking, feeling animals. It’s horrifying. And much worse than just kicking puppies.
This one sucks because I think it isn’t unknown, but easy to ignore. The worst thing I’ve seen related to this was the other day. Someone posted a video of a barn during ventilation shutdown for culling pigs and it was one of the most barbaric things I’ve seen. It was like something from a death camp.
tbf you are also having humans abused and hurt for you. Prisons to remove inconvenient people from society, wars over resources and power, and slavery overseas to produce goods at low cost. Even if you go vegan, you're still complicit in unspeakable crimes against humanity as a member of society.
yeah, but why not do the best you reasonably can to reduce overall harm? That’s literally the definition of veganism
That's fair. But if that's your goal, you'd be better off working to end the government subsidies on meat and dairy that exist solely so people will eat more meat, rather than wasting time trying to eliminate every bit from your own diet. If we managed to remove those subsidies, the price of meat/dairy would quadruple and millions of animals would be saved from consumption. Not to mention people would probably be healthier too.
but you can do both?
And by reducing demand you’re already helping.
And this is just me personally, but i couldn’t even imagine eating someone who had a mother.
HUNTING AND FISHING ARE FINE!!?? 🗣🗣🗣
Fish don't have nerves to feel pain. Hunting for food is practical. Inflicting pain because you can or bc you enjoy it is messed up.
Fish don't have nerves to feel pain.
>While some say the debate is not settled, I believe there is ample evidence to say that fish do indeed feel pain. You can find literature in the source above.
Then I recend my statement on fish not feeling pain.
I do however stand by hunting and fishing for sustenance is acceptable. Doing it as a "sport" is not something I agree with.
Its cruel. You do you, but hunting and fishing are red flags to me.
I respect your stance on that.