A Rant about Front-end Development
A Rant about Front-end Development
I am a front-end developer who is FED up about front-end development. If you write front-end, this isn't about you personally. It's about how your choices make me angry. Also this is about how my choices have made me angry. Also this is mostly just about choices, the technologies are incidental. Not...
A masterful rant about the shit state of the web from a front-end dev perspective
There’s a disconcerting number of front-end developers out there who act like it wasn’t possible to generate HTML on a server prior to 2010. They talk about SSR only in the context of Node.js and seem to have no clue that people started working on this problem when season 5 of Seinfeld was on air2.
Server-side rendering was not invented with Node. What Node brought to the table was the convenience of writing your shitty div soup in the very same language that was invented in 10 days for the sole purpose of pissing off Java devs everywhere.
Server-side rendering means it’s rendered on the fucking server. You can do that with PHP, ASP, JSP, Ruby, Python, Perl, CGI, and hell, R. You can server-side render a page in Lua if you want.
I'm not versed in the web dev scene, front end or back end. But if you mean the people that design sites where shit isn't loaded in proper sequence and keeps shifting/moving buttons as it keeps loading more shit, then yes, fuck those people.
so, this isn't so much a design as it is a consequence of how a lot of the technologies involved operate (as in, it's (largely) not a conscious choice for those things to do that shifting (except in the cases of deceptive designs)), but you're fairly correct in that it fucking sucks to have that interaction with sites/systems (because of violates principle of least surprise, etc)
(and probably also sometimes/often falls into that bucket of things where "it works perfectly fine on the dev's 27" laptop with 16 cores and 32gb of RAM and the DC is next door" development applies)
Some people enjoy the front end. Some people enjoy the back end. Some people like accessibility. Some people enjoy the full stack, and some people enjoy gratuitous innuendo.
Not that there's anything wrong with any of that, but just about all software engineering is a dumpster fire today. This isn't the future that was imagined by those resource-constrained titans who came before us, basking in the incandescent glow of the blinkenlights, fearing nothing in this world except dropping a box of several hundred punch cards thus rendering them out of order.
What we really need is a new language, design system, serialization format, package manager, build system, project management methodology, architectural pattern, IDE, and please, please, I'm begging you man, just give me one more framework to tide me over until Monday when the stores open again. My supply chain is under attack brah.
class SilverBulletFactoryFactory;
And the church said? Amen!
Preach it, brudder!
This is so cathartic to read.
I have worked with multiple static sites delivered with React, because somebody built an enterprise design system which is so tightly tied into React that it can't be applied any other way.
Lemmy, e.g. this here site, uses React too. Probably about as weirdly as they use Rust, even as the site appears to present an ok front end.
it’d be very nice to have a progressively enhanced static frontend instead since there’s really nothing about any of this that should require JavaScript (and something like unpoly would give us react SPA style functionality strictly as an enhancement on top of plain HTML)
this might be a cool project for someone to pick up once work on Philthy gets going; most of the alternative Lemmy frontends still have an unnecessary JS framework dependency, or are lacking features for essentially no reason
Mastodon, too, will not give you anything if you have JS disabled.
As someone who’s doing a ton of frontend and backend, and I can’t stress this enough, fuck the asinine attitude that somehow everything that’s even remotely web-adjacent needs to be written or rewritten in pure JS.
Also Node is an abomination and literally every other language I’ve tried is better for the backend. People love to shit on Ruby, but JS has every flaw that Ruby is criticized for and then some, and at least Ruby makes an effort to take some great design paradigms from Lisp.
for the sole purpose of pissing off Java devs everywhere.
ah ah ah! it was written to piss off Visual Basic devs everywhere
javascript spits in the face of lisp and common sense every time it evaluates, and that’s a lot of spit
I'm sorry, but the vast majority of this really just boils down to "all my coworkers suck." Why the fuck are you still there? It sounds like literally nobody you've ever worked with knows how to do web dev
I'm sorry you are this way