Trump World ‘panicking’ as Project 2025 gets on the radar of voters

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- Whoever added the citations to this is doing extremely important work. It needs to be finished though.
  
  Be the change you want to see in the world
  
  What does pg mean?
  
  Except that those page numbers don't all seem to match those statements.
- How is continue to pack the supreme court "happening rn"? I wish Biden was doing that but...
  
  I've said it many times, I wish the boogeyman Democratic party that exists in Republicans' fevered imaginations was real. They get shit done.
  
  Assuming the poster meant "Get SCOTUS to engage in our fuckery"
  
  Meaning federalist society continue to pack in next republican term... They are at least kavanaugh, gorsuch and barret - and leonard leo facilitates thomas's date night weekend getaways +++ with the billionaire oligarch.
- I’ve been skimming through the listed page numbers so maybe I missed it but where in pg 545-581 does it talk about “[ending] marriage equality”? That whole section seems to be talking about the FBI and DOJ
  
  Are you going by the page numbers on the pdf file, or at the bottom of the page? There’s several blank pages so they don’t match up
  
  This is what's killing me. When our 'news' turns out to look like propaganda, it hurts our cause. There is enough bad. It doesn't need to be exaggerated.
- More info: https://www.mediamatters.org/heritage-foundation/guide-project-2025-extreme-right-wing-agenda-next-republican-administration
- Lmao, how does they slipped "defund the police" there on plain sight
  
  Defund Police when used by left is a poorly named refrain for "police reform".
  When MAGA uses it they mean "defund police literally so that we can't get charged with shit, and the ghettos get worse."
  
  What are you referencing?

Jfc Americans. How did any one not know about project 2025?
The rest of the world is watching you elect your new supreme leader eternal and you guys are just sleep walking it through.
- "Yeah, but the not fascist was bad at speaking, so I'm just gonna elect the fascist person by not voting."
  
  ...the not fascist was bad at speaking one time, so I’m just gonna elect the lying/rapist/felon fascist person by not voting
  
  I see you're hip to the new form of left praxis on Lemmy.
- It's how bad our media silos are and how disengaged many people are. Not a good sign.
  My wife who has enough on her plate working in trauma just texts me out of the blue yesterday with something like, "just read about project 2025. Holy shit!"
  I was like oh sweet summer child lol.
  
  I told my wife the minute I heard about it a few months back... Do you not talk to her?
- Calm down…
  Our news outlets are too busy reporting on Biden right now. Please give them some room to breathe…
  
  news
  Pffft
- When I've shown people Project 2025 they often don't believe it's real. Despite evidence to the contrary.
  
  it's real but is it "real" like how the border wall was "real"? I think that's where a lot of people are at.
- Most people in all countries are extremely ignorant and disinterested about politics. Do not expect more of American voters than you'd expect of your own country's voters.
  A great example of that is Brexit in my own country. People voted for lots of ridiculous reasons both for and against, and in the end we got a crazy close but negative outcome. Just under 52% voted in favour of brexit, but I guarantee much less than half that number truly understood the issues and knew what they were voting for. It was a vote that should never have happened - it was all an arrogant ploy by David Cameron to increase control over his own party and instead it has torn the whole country apart.
  People complain about the news media but its just a product of the lazy and disinterested electorate. Mass media doesn't cater to fact and debate, it caters to shock value to try and get people watching.
  That's why biden has to go - most people don't care that trump is a lunatic or biden has had successes. Not enough will care about Project 25 even though it will damage many of trumps own voters. All they care about is that biden looks old and sounds like he's dementing because that's all that's cutting through.
- american politeness requires that we not talk about politics in public and that encourages americans to ignore everything until it impacts them; broaching the subject will label you a malcontent.
  
  american politeness requires that we not talk about politics
  Is that really a thing?
  
  It's considered impolite to espouse political views here in Australia.
  However, I've found that taking about issues rather than identities, with a modicum of diplomacy, is usually fine.
  I think this would be a lot more difficult in the US with the issues at hand because you're not deciding mundane things like whether to subsidise roof top solar but rather, whether autocracy would make a nice change.
- Total corporate media capture pulling the wool over eyes of primary voting blocs.
  Most of the rest of us are too busy working 3 shit jobs to barely survive to be paying any attention to politics.
- How did any one not know about project 2025?
  Oh, the whole world knew about it, except here in 'merica where the media was gonna surprise us after it was installed.
- Election news is especially dismal this year considering who the candidates are, so I think a lot of Americans are tuning out until the last minute.
  
  Election news is especially dismal this year
  This is a very effective psyops tactic to disengage voters.
  
  I tried putting off state and local election stuff until a canvasser came to the door last week and asked about public education funding, because the republican chain all the way up in this state wants nothing but charter schools (along with turning this place into even more of a cesspit). I would’ve found out closer to November, but now it’s going to haunt me for months instead of weeks.
- So you’re on truth social, the Fox News comments section, OAN, and other far-right American outlets (you know, the people who most need to hear it) saying this too, right? Right? Of course you are. You’d be hypocritical af not to.

Trump World sounds like the shittiest theme park. Even worse than that Willy Wonka Experience.
- Did the Epstein island rebrand?
  
  Oh gods. An Epstein island, but instead of underage girls, it's all Trump doppelgangers.

What the fuck, people are JUST NOW hearing about this??
- You'd be surprised at just how little the average voter knows about politics. There's a reason a lot of people wish politics would go back to being boring and not something everyone talked about.
  
  Indeed. Pretty much everyone I know over the age of 50 gets all of their news from Fox/CNN and maybe facebook. They're oblivious and make up the majority of the people that actually go and vote.
- A couple days ago, new evidence came out about Trump's pedophilia. I have yet to hear about it in mainstream media.
  Jane Doe vs Trump & Epstein. All of the corroborating depositions are out there. Nobody cares for some reason.
  
  About goddamn time. We heard more about Hunter Biden’s dick than how Trump rapes kids the last seven years.
  The media wants Trump back in power. He generated so many clicks for them.
  
  Afaik, it’s not really that clear.
  I mean, it’s pretty clear Trump was very close with Epstein, and that already paints a very bad picture, but it seems like the whole Jane Doe case never got anywhere, and no one is sure she even exists.
- The fox news affect. My mother thought all of these policies were coming from democrats, for some fucking reason
- Never underestimate how uninformed people are.
  
  Plenty of them are informed, and DGAF.
  Tribalism and decades right wing propaganda mean that they'll vote for anyone on the GOP ticket, even when they are clearly terrible and debatably conservative.
  
  I was so naive so as to think there was no way we’d elect Trump.
  Now I just assume we’ll do the dumbest thing on offer.
- Trump got too many votes in 2016, and even more than that in 2020, and you're surprised at how uninformed American voters are?
- Our press is too busy with far more important issues than Trump's advisors plotting a fascist takeover of the country. You know, like Biden being old.

Please, weaponize this! I know the last place you want to go is a Fox News comment section or FB posts but these people need to see how they will be personally affected too.
Weaponize the cuts to social security and medicare as much as you can. Yes, lots of conservatives are a lot cause. But I'm not asking you to reach them on the moral issues, I'm asking to get them rightfully scared of losing social security and medicare/medicaid. Make it personal.
- They also need to know they don’t need to vote for anyone. It’s perfectly valid to leave the space blank if they are not comfortable voting for Biden.
  The option exists to not vote straight R, and no one will ever know. They can vote Biden and vote R for everything else, and still pretend they voted for Trump.
  
  Better to try to get them not to vote at all I think. Push that and it might convince them to go vote when they might possibly have been willing not to. And other offices are also very important.

my job has me on i40 in Tennessee a good bit and there was a huge mega porn store off one of the exits
it has been shut down and reopened as a Mega MAGA Store
trump beat titties official the country is fucked
- I think that store shut down because of a thing called the Internet

"trump world" sounds like the most disappointing and predatory theme park ever.
- I want to get off Mr. Trump's wild ride!
- Sign: "You must be this ($$$) rich to ride this ride."
  
  If you are not rich, you may donate ($) to those more fortunate than you until God decides to make you rich!
- "No shoes, no shirt, no common decency? No problem!"
- the sequel to bush gardens
  
  Bush Gardens was/is awesome, how dare you 😂
  For Drumpf, it’s more of a sequel to Action Park (NJ)
- Herpes free just by booking

BS. This is exactly what Rump world wants. They love consolidation of power, Christian nationalism, and taking power away from non-white men. They are worried that centrist and moderate red voters will hear about it.
- That's what the headline was about?
  
  Tell me about it. Weird tone of writing for a comment completely aligned with the article.
- "BS" then goes to repeat what the headline says.
- It's the finer points, like SS and Medicaid that they would worry about. People care when it hits their wallet in a way that isn't hidden behind taxes.
  
  I mean, whatever gets the low information voters' attentions.
- I'm sure they also love the part where social services are cut and retirement age increased!
  That's the kind of shit that will make someone rethink their choices.

Project 2025 has been around for years. How have people not noticed it?
- Because republican voters don’t pay attention to what their party is doing. They only know that trans bad, brown bad, gay bad
  
  Or many republican voters do know about project 2025 and they like it.
  
  Don't forget helping the poor bad. I'm pretty sure they hate the poor more than any other category. They don't help the poor, just like american jesus intended.
  
  That's actually quite right. Google single issue voter
  
  Dont forget socialists,l - they're after their money they might earn if they just worked harder or won the lottery.
- Because on its surface it sounds like something the magas would make up.
- The news refused to cover it until people made it a big deal online.
  It's how it always works.

They were proud of it up until not long ago, trusting to the ignorance of the "average American" about policy details. Then the Supreme Court ruling came.

My family is pretty politically aware and my brother only just started talking about it, so it will take a bit for word to spread.

They have a website.

He finally got the backlash for it.

If he is elected, they won’t keep trying to pretend that they are against these positions.

Sadly my Right Wing friends insist it's "Just the Heritage Foundation" and that the "REAL" GOP already rejects it
So naive...
- No conservative voter thinks poorly of Project 2025. Every conservative in the U.S. is either fine with it or excited about it.
  A conservative who pretends it's not their platform is lying, either to placate you or to save face.
  Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation, even when those words come from friends or family.
  
  Actually Trump is shitting himself over Project 25 because Moderate Republicans don't wanna give up their porn and condoms.
- Right Wing
  friends
  There's a tough one right there.
- I heard an NPR listening, CNN watching person tell me yesterday that the Heritage Foundation was conservative extremists and not to take them seriously.
  
  I wouldn't... if they weren't the ones writing policy

Even the right wingers are pretending like it's nothing.
Not even arguing
- Of course they think Doogie Howser is the good guy in that scene.
  
  Yeah, I thought that was him. He's gay BTW. I wonder if those conservatives know that.
- What a bunch of idiots. A group funded by their politicians that frequently provides them with "model" legislation now has a manifesto regarding how to overthrow democracy and we're supposed to believe it's no big deal.
  
  Fascists know what they're doing when they gaslight you.

I heard everyone gets free donuts for life
- Okay, they won me over
  
  Except you...you pay you leave

The thing that pisses me off the most about Project 2025 is that there's no Project 2029 from the left.
- GUERILLA WARFARE AND SPECIAL FORCES OPERATIONS: FM 31-21 https://a.co/d/0eNL71EZ
  
  Clicks on link thinking it's a Rick Roll
  Pleasantly surpised it's a genuine US Army Manual on Guerilla Warfare and Special Forces
- Why would the left wait until 2029?
  
  The left shouldn't wait. It should have started years ago.
  Project 2025 didn't start yesterday. https://web.archive.org/web/20230920110555/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/20/us/politics/republican-president-2024-heritage-foundation.html
  It didn't even start in 2023. That's the culmination of years of planning.

Just learning what this is - and it honestly sets off my BS detector.
Seems like a great way to other people who support any kind if conservative position.
Not American though, so it’s hard to even tell if shit like this is real from the outside…
- The Heritage Foundation is wild, and one of the most significant public policy groups with deep ties to American conservatism. Basically, any crazy policy that the Republican party has taken on as a major party plank in the past 50 years has a distressing high chance of having its roots in Heritage's recommendations.
  For example, in 1981:
  Among the 2,000 Heritage policy recommendations, approximately 60% of them were implemented or initiated by the end of Reagan's first year in office.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation

Nice website, bro:
- Oof, gotem