MEGA THREAD - Trump shot but safe, 2 others killed at PA rally

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Alright, let's get it out ahead of time, since I'm already seeing this:

It's probably not staged. Trump reacts quickly - the fuck kind of timing you think that bloated potato has? To lift his hand to his ear just as the gunshot rings out? And the idea that the shooter grazed him on purpose is, likewise, absurd. The kind of risk that would entail, to just nick his ear?

Whether the shooter was insane or politically motivated, this is a real event.

Did you guys hear Richard Simmons died? So sad.

What peeves me is that the right are all clutching their pearls about anyone who says anything other than blind Trump sympathy. Don't get me wrong, political violence is wrong. But, remember this:

When Paul Pelosi got his face bashed in with a hammer, the right made fun of it. Mocked him. Idk, man.

Fuck. This is probably not going to lead to good things.

If you're planning to take out an aspiring despot, you better be damn sure of your shot

The great recession, a global pandemic, and now a second American civil war. I want off this train.

Guy tries to overthrow the country, and people are worried that someone tried to kill him. What is wrong with this world. If people aren't trying to kill him we have something to worried about.

The justice system failed to arrest and detain the suspect and keep him imprisoned until charged properly. This isn't a failure of the people, it is a failure of the government.

I can’t wait for Trump to turn pro-gun control.

I didn't need this fucking stress on top of everything else. I only hope that the poll bump he'll get for this is short-lived.

Biden added: "Jill and I are grateful to the Secret Service for getting him to safety. There’s no place for this kind of violence in America. We must unite as one nation to condemn it,"

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-says-he-is-grateful-hear-trump-is-safe-has-been-briefed-shooting-2024-07-14/

I mean this is the world he wants, you can't dog whistle people to take up arms against tyranny without a comfortable acceptance of the irony pool you are filling. Everyone will try to spin this to their political advantage but the truth is this is the level of political discourse the right has been driving towards.

So, I am fearing this will not only rally all Trump supporters to really vote for and support him extra hard, and get some undecideds to his side for his martyr status, but it might also spark a wave of stochastic terrorism and shootings by some right-wingers acting out, who will want to deliver justice to whatever group they will blame.

There is definitely some danger of this potentially spiraling, not guaranteed, but that will depend on some more potentially chaotic weeks ahead. Stay safe, stay prepared, stay organised.

I bet Trump is perversely happy he got shot. He can be a Real Brave Man, now. How much attention it gets him. How much more clout he believes he will get because he will weasel some political capital out of it. Heaven help us if the shooter was liberal, this man is fine with dog whistling violence and more than a few of his followers are itching to engage in it. It won't matter one whit how many people have been killed or hurt by right wingers.

I bet there will be a retaliatory attack on his Biden

I was excited at first, then sad. Trump's death would be the only way american people get justice as he's clearly above the law. Can't believe all the news hasn't called him felon trump, instead calling him president trump, dropping the former.

Gotta love how people are instantly pulling a QAnon deal of “ITS A FALSE FLAG, FAKE NEWS, NOTHING HAPPENS WITHOUT A GRAND CABAL!”

Somehow Trump is a mastermind of this. The dude who can’t hide stolen files properly, can’t lie on his taxes properly, and loses money on a casino, somehow has the ability to rig a false flag assassination attempt.

Are NeoLibs that so far into the Kool-Aid that Dipshit Trump is also a grandmaster 5D chess player of this, while not being able to string words together? It’s not like he’s ever been a good actor.

"Now Trump's gonna say Biden tried to kill him."

He already said that.

"Now Trump's gonna call for repression of the left."

He already did that.

"Now they're gonna say Trump is a martyr."

They already say that.

"Now the right is gonna get violent with their political opponents."

They already do that.

"Now the fash are gonna push for an enabling act."

They already are doing that.

It's equally frustrating and vindicating that people are waking up to the alarms minorities have been sounding for... decades? Even during 9/11, people were saying this is the start of the end for any form of freedom. Then we had economic crash after crash. Then more rights removed. More drone strikes. More illegal wars.

Then we tried to warn about Trump. No one cared. He won. The people who said he would hurt did get hurt. People acted shocked.

Biden came in. Ignored the people in jail cells, ignored COVID for better polling, refusing the new powers given to him to do anything better for the country at large, and slowly turning into a walking skeleton.

And every single time people have said "Hey this is bad for any form of democracy" people said it was overblown, nothing bad would happen. Then it got worse and worse. Voting didn't solve most of the issues. Protesting did. And then both parties clamped harder on protestors and increased funding to the militarized police.

Welcome to Weimar Germany, America. People have only warned you for decades. If this doesn't wake anyone up, then you'll sleepwalk as you claim ignorance on why you're "just following orders".

Reddit's megathread on this is already broken. Just goes to show how terrible it is, you'd think after all this time they'd figure out how to run a website...

I’m so over politics in America. This shit is terrifying. People trying to overthrow elections, seniors that are too old to lead, voter suppression, people stuck in disinformation bubbles, and now assassins. Meanwhile, the rich just get richer, and “middle class” life just gets harder and harder.

I have dual citizenship with an EU nation from birth, and this week had made me start to dust off those childhood documents and look into the details of relocating.

I was looking for other angles, but haven't found any yet. There's clearly lots of people recording in the video broadcast by CNN. I did find the following though.

• The shooter was on a roof approximately 125m or 400ft from where Trump was standing.
• An emergency room doctor I spoke with tried to save someone’s life in the crowd
• They got the guy. Footage of Trumps potential shooter being dragged out of the rally by police
• The Shooter at the Trump Rally in Pennsylvania can be seen Dead on the Roof of a nearby Building, after being Killed by U.S. Secret Service Agents
• this BBC interview with a guy outside the security perimeter who claims he saw the shooter before he fired is absolutely wild

Trump shouts 'fight'

Yeah. The man advocates violence again.

Mehdi Hassan lays out the irony of Republicans saying they don't condone violence and want to pin this on Biden:

https://zeteo.com/p/did-donald-trump-just-win-the-election?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=2325511&post_id=146588566&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=43tetm&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

The WSJ:

Biden’s Rhetoric Grew Heated in Recent Days

A few days ago the WSJ said Biden was old and ineffectual. Now Biden is a power master.

Pick a fucking lane, WSJ

If the gunman is dead, and Richard Simmons is dead... Was it him?

https://kansascitydefender.com/national/trump-shooting-antifa-conspiracies/

Right-Wing Accounts Launch Mark Violets Antifa Conspiracy in Light of Trump “Assassination Attempt

Please note this is a DEBUNKED conspiracy per the link above, the shooter's identity is unknown at this time

Got him in the ear, huh?

“Much bleeding took place”

The person killed by the shooter, Corey Comperatore, was a 50 year old volunteer firefighter shielding his family from the gunshots.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-rally-shooting-victim-identified-50-year-old-man-2024-07-14/

I did some cyberstalking (someone actually built a whole ass family tree on Ancestry already, which was my source to look up the other info). Just a reminder, please don’t dox or post any publicly identifiable info on here.

The alleged shooter did donate to a liberal group in 2021, age 17, before he was registered to vote. Rumors of this being another person are likely inaccurate, as the donor has the correct name and zip code listed.

The alleged shooter is a registered Republican. Some have theorized he did this as a “stop Trump” sort of thing to vote in PA’s closed primaries. His father is a registered libertarian and his mother is a registered democrat. His sister is a registered libertarian.

I imagine we will have more info on his background and motivation in the coming days and weeks. It’s possible that he could have any kind of political alignment. A lot of young men can get radicalized between 17 and 20.

This quote from a supporter is very rich indeed

The witness said she wasn't surprised a shooting occurred because of the current political climate.

It’s a great opportunity to open a conversation about gun control.

Trump was not involved in the writing of that statement.

Dark times (including a now virtually guaranteed Trump presidency) ahead.

RIP to the USA.

What a historically crazy day.

Thoughts and prayers 🙏

After thinking about this...offing him will do nothing to stop the creep of facism. You have an entire party now aligned with the idealogices that the 3rd Reich had. And it's the entire party. MAGA killed the GOP after they got rid of Cheney. You cut one head off and 3 more will pop up identical to him...with vindication. Its going to be a yearly struggle and I fear we won't be able to hold the line forever

I only vote for candidates who people aren't shooting at.

All of the Trump rally photos that I have ever seen have an audience behind him. If they did the same here, then any missed shots would go into the audience.

Gun traced to suspect's dad, was legally purchased

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/donald-trump-rally-shooting-assassination-attempt/?id=111916828

I was hoping for a post game interview ngl.

I like Presidents who DON'T Fail their Assassinations!

Any word on how the attendees got shot? Can't see anything in articles

We'll see now this just wouldn't have happened if they let the attendees bring their guns now would it?

Lol no, that statement is way too comprehensible for Trump.

Chris Hedges' tweet...

My thoughts on the assassination attempt on former President Trump:

The assassination of Trump would not remove the yearning of tens of millions of people, many conditioned by the Christian right, for a cult leader. Most of the leaders of the Christian right have built cult followings of their own. These Christian fascists embraced magical thinking, attacked their enemies as agents of Satan and denounced reality-based science and journalism long before Trump did. Cults are a product of social decay and despair, and our decay and despair are expanding, soon to explode in another financial crisis.

The efforts by the Democratic Party and much of the press, including CNN and The New York Times, to discredit Trump, as if our problems are embodied in him, are futile. The smug, self-righteousness of this crusade against Trump only contributes to the national reality television show that has replaced journalism and politics. This crusade attempts to reduce a social, economic and political crisis to the personality of Trump. It is accompanied by a refusal to confront and name the corporate forces responsible for our failed democracy. This collusion with the forces of corporate oppression, which have impoverished the working class, fostered endless war, militarized our police, created the largest prison system in the world, licensed corporations to exploit the most vulnerable and transferred wealth upwards into the hands of a billionaire class, neuters the press, Trump's critics and the Democratic Party.

Our only hope is to organize the overthrow of the corporate state that vomited up Trump. Our democratic institutions, including the legislative bodies, the courts and the media, are hostage to corporate power. They are no longer democratic. We must, like resistance movements of the past, engage in acts of sustained mass civil disobedience, especially strikes, and non-cooperation. By turning our ire on the corporate state, rather than Trump, we name the true sources of power and abuse. We expose the absurdity of blaming our demise on demonized groups such as undocumented workers, Muslims, African-Americans, Latinos, liberals, feminists, gays and others. We give people an alternative to a bankrupt Democratic Party -- whose presidential candidate is in clear cognitive decline -- that is a full partner in corporate oppression and cannot be rehabilitated. We make possible the restoration of an open society. If we fail to embrace this militancy, which alone has the ability to destroy cult leaders, we will continue the march toward tyranny.

source: https://x.com/ChrisLynnHedges/status/1812526737982726267

Don't forget it's not over after November. There are more elections and more chances to turn this around and save our country.

I just man... ya know like.. don't fucking care anymore, I just dont

I hope this act is not replicated.

Only if it was a little bit to the right…

I hope Biden is safe btw, he can be the target of the armored right-winged people

I look forward to finding out what the shooters motivations are. I don't personally expect it to be a left-wing partisan but something else, though I'll refrain from speculating here. Let's just say that there current Republican party tends to infight - to try and eat itself any time it senses weakness or deviance from the cult's marching orders.

Once law enforcement announced the shooter's identity and the world gets to dig into his social media and communications data... Well I guess we shall see.

Welp, seems like that’s it boys. Trump’s got this all locked up.

They missed :(

There is something seriously wrong with American politics. Trump is evil - not a word I throw around lightly - but this shooting has all but guaranteed a win for him in November.

He's clinched it. He's going to be King.

Trump after a shooting in Iowa that left one sixth-grader dead and six other staffers and students injured,

"So surprising to see it here. But, we have to get over it. We have to move forward..."

• how were the secret service not on the roofs or monitoring the roofs from aerial POV? Most obvious spot for a sniper.

• the dude interviewed by British journalist right after that says him and group saw man with gun climbing roof, told cops and secret service and neither did anything

• his first and only focus was his shoes?

• a man who is a documented coward and narcissist pushed against secret service to face cameras and have his head exposed for a long period of time?

• secret service ignores protocol to cover and remove him and let's him vamp and pose

• straight lines of blood on his face, history with pro wrestling

• yes, the supposed gunman was killed, but on what day are there not thousands of trump cultists lined up and ready to die if someone tells them they are on a secret mission to help daddy?

• yes, some in crowd may have been injured, but when has trump shown any hesitation to have pale injured or killed for his personal benefit (January 6th, church protests, etc).

• his secret service were proven corrupt and involved in cover up measures for trump before (e.g. Deliberately erasing text messages relevant to January 6th)

• this all happens as project 2025 narrative was taking form hold, leaked video/audio by the day and days before the RNC.

• watch the footage, down the stairs, secret service is concerned with grabbing and carrying his special red hat? How the fuck would that ever be a concern in an actual emergency?

Was the shooter name Johann Georg Elser by any chance?

Never send a liberal to do a leftist's job.

I've been wondering where the crazies were on the left, and now i know