Robert Downey Jr. Sets Marvel Return as Doctor Doom in ‘Avengers: Doomsday’
Robert Downey Jr. will bring Victor von Doom into the Marvel Cinematic Universe in "Avengers: Doomsday."
yo what
RDJ built the house of MCU, but now he has to maintain it as well? The man was in something like 9 movies over 10 years. He did his bit for king and country. But because too much of post-end game had been low quality, gotta bring back ol' reliable.
Not like pre endgame it was fucking teeming with quality, most of the mcu is watchable once inoffensive, appeal to everyone stuff that's competently made.
The only movies i have genuinely wanted to rewatch pre endgame are Thor Ragnarok, Infinity war, and maybe Iron man, that's it, the rest is just not worth revisiting and even iron man if I never see it again I won't feel like I missed out.
Ragnarok i have watched like 4 times and I could rewatch it again, infinity war is really good too and is worth rewatching, endgame is too much fan service moments but still okay.
I can't wait for the inevitable Klumps/Dr. Doolittle-style Marvel series with RDJ in every role, including fat suits.
I realize that this may be a ridiculous statement but I think this is finally jumping the shark for me…
Yeah, I think the new Deadpool definitely was. Trying to avoid spoilers … I did like it but a lot of fan service, cameos, predictable gags …. This was all in previews/reviews … but it doesn’t really stand on its own
I believe that's the Deadpool movies weakness: you'll barely remember the movie/plot; the cameos are the best part, but they're really not movies you'd want to watch a second time. You may watch it out of boredome, but that's it. I watched Deadpool last night and was both entertained and amazed by the cameos, but that's it.
I’m not deeply familiar with the lore/canon. Is there any instance in the comics that Tony Stark becomes Dr. Doom? If not, is this Marvel getting desperate with their waning popularity by trying to bring back RDJ just to straight up play a different character? That’s a new low.
Dr. Doom has become Iron Man, so there's that. In this case it might just be same actor two roles. Remember that Doom wears that mask because his face is all fucked up; it's likely that they could just have RDJ play the role without any Iron Man connections at all.
Update: also there's this: https://youtu.be/5Jv-HopDBV4?si=052HgQB2WQJhtvRT
I'm not well versed with lore but "What If: Iron Man: Demon in an Armor" has Tony and Victor swap bodies. It happens when they are younger so they have different paths and that story isn't the one that is going to be told here, but... technically yes.
But also keep in mind it's fine for the MCU to do things a little different. In Multiverse of Madness we was the "Illuminati" in a way similar to existing material, but still wholly unique. Additionally we got characters like Mordo who get new arcs and growth that differs from any existing media
While I do expect this to be a little desperate on Marvels part, they're also bringing back the Russo brothers, I think it's also a way to bring hype back to Marvel and the idea of the multiverse. The future is mutants and Secret Wars will be a great way to get that going so I think we're going to speedrun it and a cheesy strat like bringing back RDJ is a way to do that.
In terms of story I don't think they're going to ignore that he played Tony Stark/Iron Man. If we're going to play with the Multiverse (and we are) then a variant of Tony is fair game.
IIRC, there is a multiverse timeline where Tony becomes Dr. Doom. Considering how they're really playing into/opening up the multiverse and with Secret Wars also coming, I'm actually really stoked for this.
Hail Mary pass for the MCU. Seems incredibly dumb to me, but the MCU seems like it's on its last legs anyway.
I'm honestly expecting Galactus soon then a sort of hard reset in a few years along with Disney strongarm taking back Spiderman from Sony, if not outright buying Sony studios. Then with all rights in house, building a new MCU from the ground up
Dr. Doom has a mask that he never removes so maybe that's how this will work?
He's totally going to remove the mask.
I don't think you cast someone like Robert Downey Jr unless you're planning on having them out of mask at some point. Even just as a flashback/backstory kind of thing.
This is the most comicbook thing ever, and you guys should chill out.
Yes, Marvel movies are bad lately, but the Infinity Saga is a masterpiece of cinema (with its very-high highs and mediocre-at-worst lows) that no one but MarvelStudios has been able to pull off. Maybe they can do it again.
Also RDJ is an amazing actor and he will very probably do a brutal job at making us all forget Tony Stark even existed.
This decision was made with the money in mind, not cinema; this applies ti Disney and RDJ, so I don't expect a great production. Disney was desperately looking to bring the original cast back somehow, and RDJ has previously talked shit about his Marvel movies...
exactly the first iron man wasn't because of money, no exec wanted RDJ lol, they only choose him because he was good fit for iron man
Not to mention I find it doubtful we're going to see his face...like it all. I mean, it's fucking Doctor Doom.
I hope they don't try to tell his origine again; we've seen it already. There are plenty of great actors that could've been Dr Doom, but nooo. This is just a money grab to me.
Hopefully he does take his mask off and they acknowledge it's some variant of Stark.
As someone who is a bit out of the loop on Marvel since endgame, who are the current Avengers even?
The Avengers remain disbanded.
Young Avengers have started to team up at least.
That’s part of their problem. How do you keep the Avengers going with a different group, or have a new group that’s totally not the Avengers? I’m definitely not a fan of all the multiverse stuff - that’s where I stopped reading the comics and it’s pretty much there for the movies
That was the potential with Guardians of the Galaxy - very different from Avengers, with very different situations. They could have been something, but maybe they’ve had their run.
I would watch another Eternals movie, but I hope they’d keep it independent.
One of the biggest mistakes in my opinion. They sent him off and closed the chapter so well that it was fitting. To rip him back because they're struggling to make anything half as decent is a cop out and tarnishes the franchise.
I understand comicbook characters die and come back all the time but the multi generational audience that was apart of that experience can never watch end game again as that emotional good bye to the last decade is now gone.
It is most likely damage control because the Kang thing was derailed due to Kang's actor being an abuser. RDJ is now a known and reliable actor for the MCU who is able to play a character like Doom and will most likely never show his actual face on acreen. It would be like Josh Brolin reprising Cable in Deadpool now that it is part of the MCU even though he was already Thanos.
As long as Doom's voice is modulated enough that it doesn't sound like Iron Man it should work out fine.
Wait, what? How is this gonna work? Lots of costume or...... Is MCU iron man canonically becoming Dr Doom somehow?
my guess is alternate timeline stark born in Latveria or something like that
MCU (616) Tony Stark is dead dead. Pushing up the daisies. Pining for the fjords. Most we might get are flashbacks, alternate versions (until they close up the multiverse thing with the next two Avengers films), and possibly an AI voiced by RDJr in Ironheart.
This Doom might be an alternate version of Stark, or we might never get to see his face, or we might simply get a “yeah, this is my face, deal with it” lampshade as we got with James Rhodes and are going to get with Thunderbolt Ross.
(I'm not even convinced he'll last for more than the two Avengers films... alternate Doom comes to 616 for reasons, does his thing, leaves. Local 616 Doom then doesn't need much of an introduction, can be played by someone younger and cheaper.)
My current running theory is that the plot might be him as a doom clone and they were planning on trucking viewers like they did with Mysterio in Far From Home (unless those viewers knew the character, of course) but for whatever reason they believed the hype is better than the shock after the fact. Maybe trying to deal with decreasing viewership or something.
So, he's Doom from another timeline / universe where he's not(?) Tony Stark but Victor von Doom, a genius inventor who creates a suit of power armor to rule over a small country with high tech secrets (Wakanda/Latveria) and there's no Stark in that universe, it's just a What If remix merged into the MCU main timeline?
This is weird
Will that lead to a new, actually good Marvel vs Capcom? Because MvC Infinite did as well as these more recent movies.
Huh? Huh.
The time we faced Doom....