Have you tried NixOS?

cool

Even when using in a basic way, I think it has one very tangible advantage: the fact that you can "compartmentalize" different aspects of your configuration.

Let's say I set up a specific web service that I want to put behind a reverse proxy, and it uses a specific folder that doesn't exist yet, like Navidrome which is a web-based audio player. It requires a set of adjustments of different system parts. My nix file for it looks like this:

{ config, ... }:

let
  domain = "music." + toString config.networking.domain;
in
  {
    services.navidrome = {
      enable = true;
      settings = {
        Address = "127.0.0.1";
        Port = 4533;
        MusicFolder = "/srv/music";
        BaseUrl = "https://" + domain;
        EnableSharing = true;
        Prometheus.Enabled = true;
        LogLevel = "debug";
        ReverseProxyWhitelist = "127.0.0.1/32";
      };
    };

    services.nginx = {
      upstreams = {
        navidrome = {
          servers = {
            "127.0.0.1:${toString config.services.navidrome.settings.Port}" = {};
          };
        };
      };
    };

    services.nginx.virtualHosts."${domain}" = {
      onlySSL = true;
      useACMEHost = config.networking.domain;
      extraConfig = ''
        include ${./authelia/server.conf};
      '';
      locations."/" = {
        proxyPass = "http://navidrome";
        recommendedProxySettings = false;
        extraConfig = ''
          include ${./authelia/proxy.conf};
          include ${./authelia/location.conf};
        '';
      };
    };

    systemd.tmpfiles.settings."navidrome-music-dir"."${toString config.services.navidrome.settings.MusicFolder}" = {
      d = {
        user = "laser";
        mode = "0755";
      };
    };
    systemd.services.navidrome.serviceConfig.BindReadOnlyPaths = ["/run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf"];
      
    security.acme.certs."${config.networking.domain}".extraDomainNames = [ "${domain}" ];
  }

All settings related to the service are contained in a single file. Don't want it anymore? Comment it out from my main configuration (or whereever it's imported from) and most traces of it are gone, the exception being the folder that was created using systemd.tmpfiles. No manually deleting the link from sites-available or editing the list of domains for my certificate. The next generation will look like the service never existed.

And in my configuration, at least the port could be changed and everything would still work – I guess there is room for improvement, but this does what I want pretty well.

Just to clarify, I wouldn't recommend putting everything in a single file, but rather modularize the configuration.

I also came from Arch, but have since abandoned it, and I don't think I want to use distributions for myself that use the the classic imperative concept. One you get a better understanding of it, it makes so much more sense.

as a fox myself, i would not recommend it.

Damn you broke my brain for a second there. I thought you meant that nixos replaced k8s, and was wondering what the hell are you talking about.

How long ago did you try? You should try again, I did not have this experience setting up with the graphical installer a few weeks ago.

Sounds like you haven't done it in a while. It has calamares installer now.

I need to compile my kernel... by hand with tools from beige-age computing.

There is a Gnome/KDE installer too now ;)

This is the opposite of me. I always get nervous when I don't have precise control over how the disk layout looks. I explicitly decided for the non-graphical installer when I first downloaded NixOS

My OS is also a tool!

Those jerk OSs and their bullying!

Slackware still does that in 2024.

The obvious sane default is 1 partition covering the whole disk, + EFI system partition. What's there to offer...

Its especially annoying for me because i wanna go back to something that "just works" but i miss the nix features. I like declaring my system but managing packages declaratively is just such a pain. I just wanna do apt-get install package its just easier i dont want to rebuild my whole ass system. Something i found that may work is using nix for the system and then distrobox for packages. Yall think thats something that would work well?

Same, I could not go back now.

Yeah, you want to sniff nix first before you mainline nixos.

nothing imo, it's main benefit is making reproducible environments, imagine you need 10 machines to have the exact same things running on it, setting up each one would be a PITA and keeping them the same is near impossible, nixos solves that problem.

it's not gonna do anything for you, most people just want a working OS system on your PC so that you can do the things you need to do, if you have that, there is no reason to be fucking around with nixos.

Very well built patches and ways to share them. This is a good thing for gaming as we can try bleeding edge like Arch. But without having to rely on AUR or scripts to copy locally. Thanks to Nix Flakes you simply reference the flake someone shared (after double checking what is in it) and rebuild a NixOS derivation and voila, patch installed. I installed a complete SteamOS in 1 minute with this, reboot and everything works. Even with your locally signed in Steam account 👌

Everything about your OS is defined in a config files and can be rebuilt. You break something you don't need to do a complete reinstall if you can't figure it out. Just rebuild the last working configuration. Sharing builds with your friends is easier.

For gaming getting your graphics card going is much simpler. I never had steam and proton games run as well as they do with they nixos defaults

i nuked my nixos install twice to install guix and twice I went back to my nix setup. GuixSD is missing a certain polish to it. It feels like it's on the way there but probably not yet...

the second time was just last week, after setup on sway, I installed flatpak apps and tried setting up nix-env for packages, some XDG_DATA_DIR fucked up and I couldn't even see the installed packages or start them from a terminal

servers are also slow and rebuilding is a fucking pain

Does it? I have two VMs on remote VPS servers that use GRUB because of no UEFI and I had no issues

No arch, only NixOS! RAAHHH!!!

You can absolutely install Cosmic with Nix

It build in a sandbox, but it's not run in a sandbox.