Firefox has surpassed Chrome on Speedometer

Congrats to Firefox, it really has made substantial improvements over the years.

I'm sticking with Firefox until some dev decides to use it's engine to make a new better browser. I truly enjoy Arc and Vivaldi, but since they're chromium i don't trust them an inch with my personal data.

Firefox rules

Three chrome users said, “nuh uh!”.

Great job Mozilla. I hope that Firefox will one day be as popular as Chrome or even more! ❤️

Google is blitzscaled techbro big tech, the honeymoon is over, now it's time for enshittification !

I've been using Firefox since Windows XP days and speed has never really been a complaint. Well back in Flash days some sites got janky but that was probably Flash as much as Firefox.

Great, now do the phone browser

anyone care to explain what we're looking at here?

As a Firefox Desktop/Android user this sure sounds awesome.

Good. Now, stop being forced as a snap, please.

Browsers are cyclical like fashion, I guess.

Remember when chrome launched and they had all those commercials showing how fast it loaded webpages?

I use firefox and I like it but they have been dumbfying their UI and nagging users to use pockets.

Why on earth would I need to go to about window to update? Also, I don’t know where to find extensions so I just choose addons then manually go to extensions.

Never complained about its performance but that's awesome!

I'm still using Chrome, but it keeps getting shittier. At some point they'll push me over to Firefox. Hope Firefox can avoid getting shitty.

I've been avoiding Chrome as devil avoids holy water for years. So I'm glad FF does well.

What is exactly being measured here? Someone care to elaborate what kind of things they kept into account?

There's been a few comments on here talking about Firefox on Android being laggy compared to Chrome on Android.

Nobody seems to have mentioned this, but the main reason this is and/or appears to be the case is because Firefox is capped at 60Hz, whereas Chrome will display at 90Hz, making it feel much smoother.

No, I have no idea why.

Edit: The above is misinformation after I did some research - it appears that resisting fingerprinting causes the browser to set itself to 60Hz, but this can be disabled to get your screen's refresh rate, but of course this means throwing away a privacy protection...

i had left firefox for a while due to the google ecosystem but i’m happy i came back to it.

I just love reading post like this, congrats Firefox and f*** Google!

Damn that's huge improvements in a relatively short span of time. I'm just waiting for more features on Firefox Android.

Can anyone verify that this is also true for platforms beyond windows (what is plotted in the link by default)?

(I tried to change the plot to show macOS and Linux, but the plotting site is dubiously functional on mobile, plus there are a bewildering number of plot options with long, confusing names).

So I tested both FireFox and Edge real quick and it's true.

Although, I enabled every security and privacy setting on both (just about the same set of extentions also). But even then, even with a lower score, Edge still feels much smoother to use. Also, every time test refreshed, FF flashed white for a split second as opposed to Edge's black. Since I use dark mode and Dark Reader, it's extremely annoying on FF's part.

Fennec from fdroid, for android, is even better as it didnt originate from google play store. My understandong is Google Playstore injects data into the app package. I use fennec for my day to day access. It syncs with desktop Firefox so all my passwords and logins are there.

There is also Firefox Nightly for "developers". I use it for the custom add on packages and doom scrolling.

As long as they can't manage to make a half-decent mobile browser this hardly matters.

Performance improvements are nice and all, but unless the performance is truely terrible, it's the least relevant factor.

Much more importent are:

• consistently good UX over all platforms, together with good sync
• good support for all websites

Their Android version is completely useless since the reboot (which is especially sad since the version before was hands down the best UX for a mobile browser on the market). They even dropped their VR version, even though it was literally just their Android version with slightly adjusted UX. They don't even have any form of tablet UI or Android TV UI.

And since their market share is steadily approaching zero, more and more websites drop support for FF and it's noticable.

The support part is what really kills FF, since it's not really in their hands whether web devs test websites with FF.

Lower market share -> less support -> lower market share.

Especially users who "just want the browser to work" are affected by that. They don't care much about the browser, but about the websites. And if their favourite websites tell them to stop using FF, they will. And that kind of user makes up the biggest part of the market share.

And since FF has no platform where they can push their browser (contrary to all other major browsers), they also won't get new users.

As much as we would want it otherwise, FF is dead, they just haven't accepted it yet. And that's true for almost all Mozilla products and Mozilla itself.

The only way I see how this can be reversed is if e.g. the EU decides that Mozilla and/or its products have some special value and starts funding and pushing them.