Lemmy devs are looking to make votes public. Thoughts?
Lemmy devs are looking to make votes public. Thoughts?
Question I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts on possibly making votes public. This has been discussed in a lot of other issues, but here's a dedicated one for discussion. Positives Could help figh...
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I really wanted to post this on !traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.net but I'm not trans myself and I didn't want to take up their space.
Basically, the devs of Lemmy are looking to make upvotes public to everyone. Right now, I believe voter identities are known to server admins and mods.
I don't have a strong opinion on this myself, either for or against, as I write this comment, but I'm wondering if there's something I'm missing, frankly as a cishet dude.
But also... I've kinda lost trust in Nutomic making decisions about the software that won't make things worse for trans people since his comments on the Olympics were made public. Dessalines has (so far) at least tolerated Nutomic's transphobia despite whatever prior rhetoric. Frankly, I am suspicious that trans people don't matter to the Lemmy dev team...to be charitable...so I'd really like to hear your thoughts.
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I say Do it, when the admins here did it to ban all the transphobes a year ago it made the site way better, plus i dont think it will reduce votes.
What is the history here? Was this part of the great pronoun struggle session?
No, it was its own thing, the downvote struggle session https://hexbear.net/post/64691, i like to call it the great purge, but the timeline was first admins checked who was down voting trans posts then banned them, then removed downvotes
Was this before required pronouns or after required pronouns? It seems to me that Down Votes only really allow reactionaries to impose their perspective on a conversation without having their perspective ever directly challenged. In some ways, this reminds me of
's notion of Capitalist Encirclement.In order for Hexbear to develop into a truly inclusive space, it does so under constant siege from the greater reactionary world. Reactionary forces inside Hexbear but also existing on the wider network use a wide range of attacks to stifle Hexbear's development. Methods of moderation viewed as
or appealing to "populist ideals" by the reactionary must be employed to build a truly inclusive space. Invading the "privacy" of user's votes to root out TURFS and then disable one of their primary modes of harassment only furthers the Hexbear project.This, I think, could be part of the objection to public votes. There are communities on this network that want nothing to do with the "Marketplace of Ideas" and that's probably good to a greater degree. Allowing those communities to no longer be passively debated by reactionaries, by allowing the communities users to collectively identify downvote harassment, threatens the liberal notion of
.Since 1993 we've been trying to get over the horizon of Eternal September and onwards into Revolutionary October.
It was after the pronouns one because i remember comments being downvoted then, evidence
Ha! I can imagine this is what eventually led to disabling down votes. Each of these measures were definitely valid and justified looking back at them (as someone who wasn't here when they happened).