How do you make someone understand that being drafted by force and ordered to invade another country is not a good thing?
How do you make someone understand that being drafted by force and ordered to invade another country is not a good thing?
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Do you think the people of Ukraine want to be invaded by Russia?
You know the same Russia that is constantly killing loads of civilians and is repressing their own people.
I’m sure many eastern Ukrainians who were getting killed and repressed by their own people for a decade did. Some of them explicitly requested Russian intervention.
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: 'I want to bring up a warrior': Ukraine's far-right children's camp – video
- WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
- Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
- Consortium News, 2022: Evidence of US-Backed Coup in Kiev
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
- History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
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The post-2014 coup annexation of Crimea want as smoothly as it did because many of the residents wanted it.Why didn't they just move to Russia if they liked Russia more?
Either way that does in no way justify the Russian total invasion attempt and the murder of thousands of innocents.
So do you think Russia was in the right to invade Ukraine?
I don’t really know what Russia ought to have done, but the US knowingly put Russia between a rock and a hard place. How would the US have reacted if Russia was creeping a “defensive” alliance toward the US’ border and orchestrated a Mexican coup?
- NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University.
- The Ukraine Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
- Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
- US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
- Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
- Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
- The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine In May of [2022] Ukrainian media reported that then-British prime minister Boris Johnson had flown to Kiev the previous month to pass on the message on behalf of the western empire that “Putin is a war criminal, he should be pressured, not negotiated with,” and that “even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not.”
- The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
- CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
- Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world”
- Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism
So you refuse to answer the question of whether you think Russia broke international law with a war of aggression by invading Ukraine?
Huh. Seems weird. Almost as if you're avoiding taking a stance. I wonder what would make you be avoidant of that particular question and motivate you to question the legitimacy of the conflict Russia started but is currently losing?
You should know that we ban people who stalk others to downvote them.
"We"? Yes, I know you're a mod. I'm shaking. That makes this avoidance of your way worse.
Disagreeing with someone isn't against the rules, is it? How about intimidating others with implications of "if I don't like what you say, I'll ban you"?
You should know I disapprove of people who refuse to acknowledge Russia broke international law with a war of aggression when they invaded Ukraine.
Downvoting things you disagree with is one thing, pettily downvoting everything someone posts regardless of content is quite another: it’s harassment, and it’s not a good look.
Whether Russia broke international laws by invading isn’t even a point of debate: I’ve yet to encounter a single person who thinks otherwise. If that’s the point you’re trying to make then congratulations Captain Obvious.
This is a two day old thread buried under “View all comments,” which no one is going to read, so your debate-me-bro-ing is a waste of exactly two people’s time.
Whether Russia broke international laws by invading isn’t even a point of debate: I’ve yet to encounter a single person who thinks otherwise. If that’s the point you’re trying to make then congratulations Captain Obvious
Then you're an absolute dogshit mod, either not looking or not recognising Russian trolls who are plentiful even on Lemmy.
Whether Russia broke international laws by invading isn’t even a point of debate
So you're still refusing to answer the question?
Then you’re an absolute dogshit mod, either not looking or not recognising Russian trolls who are plentiful even on Lemmy.
There are approximately zero Russian trolls, but there are plenty of conspiracy theorists who think there are.
- IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims
- Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia
- Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets
- Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier
- Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters
- Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election
- Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork
- Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
- MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes
- Jeff Gerth at Columbia Journalism Review on Russiagate: Editor's Note | Part one | Part two | Part three | Part four
- Matt Taibbi: WMD, Part II: CIA "Cooked The Intelligence" To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016
- Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away
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Whether Russia broke international laws by invading isn’t even a point of debate
So you’re still refusing to answer the question?
You are being utterly ridiculous, so yes. I don’t know why you’re doubling down on sounding like a 12 year old.
There are approximately zero Russian trolls
Good one, mate. Are you trying to say bad actors who are literally employed by Russia, but ignoring all the people who've bought into the propaganda enough to propagate them despite not getting financially compensated by the state of Russia?
Are you seriously trying to say the existence of Russian propaganda on Lemmy is zero percent? I sincerely doubt that, because I'm sure you're aware of just how ridiculous of a statement that is.
"You're being utterly ridiculous by asking one simple question, to which I would avoid the answer were I on the side of Russian rhetoric."
You're making a mountain out of a molehill. I asked a simple question; do you agree that Russia has broken international law with a war of aggression by invading Ukraine?
It really doesn't necessitate getting upset nor all the equicovation. What's more ridiculous: listing a bunch of links trying to imply there's no such thing as Russian propaganda when asked if you think it was wrong of Russia to invade Ukraine... or... asking someone a simple yes or no question?