My expectation is that NATO's days are numbered. Essentially, NATO serves as a protection racket spearheaded by the United States. With China emerging as the main rival for America, while their proxy conflict with Russia falters, Europe is destined to be discarded so that the US can redirect its focus towards Asia. Turkey, sensing an impending shift in global dynamics, is now diversifying its alliances.
Oh yeah, I don't think anybody with a functioning brain thinks Turkey would ever get into the EU. At this point, it's not even clear what the benefit would be either given that EU is imploding.
I don't think this is true. Turkey has been playing both sides for a long time, and this is just another step in that direction. But NATO is still resilient unfortunately.
Turkey absolutely likes to play both sides, but I can't see how NATO survives without the US being committed to it. Meanwhile, the US has to pick its battles because it can't be everywhere at once. And China is now a far bigger concern for US than Europe is.
NATO is an instrument of US hegemony. I can't imagine they'd stop committing to it. They know there are too many who think Russia is a threat to them and will just do whatever to keep NATO alive. I don't think US would want to let go of something so useful to them.
At the end of the day the US doesn't see Russia as a primary threat, and they lack the resources to both fund NATO and threaten China. With the war in Ukraine having been lost, I expect that the US will leave Europe to deal with the fallout and refocus on Asia. If the war achieved its goals of accomplishing a regime change in Russia or even Balkanizing it, then it would be a different story. The US would absolutely invest into NATO to surround China from the west at that point. However, now that Russia has come out stronger, it would just be throwing good money after bad from US perspective.
That's the same logic as saying Capitalism is voluntary because workers agree to work for their wages. Such analysis sees the subservience in a vacuum devoid of external pressures or developmental practices.
NATO was formed to be anti-USSR, after the collapse of which the Russian Federation tried to join NATO, and was denied. The RF then complained about NATO expansion, which had not ceased.
Regardless of whether or not you believe Russia's invasion of Ukraine is justified or villianous, it was provoked by NATO expansion, as admitted by NATO leaders themselves.
NATO was formed to be anti-USSR, after the collapse of which the Russian Federation tried to join NATO, and was denied.
in the same way the us wouldn't be allowed to join csto
The RF then complained about NATO expansion, which had not ceased.
i don't see how it's nato's fault that people are so sick of russia's shit that they're signing up to the defensive alliance against them in their droves
it was provoked by NATO expansion
nato expansion that existed because of russian land grabs
nato isn't the warsaw pact. they aren't sending in tanks to force people to be a part of their alliance.
this is just you doing the thing you accused me of doing by refusing to consider externalities
NATO didn't start after 2022
russia didn't start misbehavin' after 2022 either
many of its leaders were Nazi officers
east germany was part of the warsaw pact, and had plenty of ex-nazis in its ranks
the reason you can't draw a line from that to today is because the ussr folded like a cheap suit 30 years ago
it has always been a way to exert Western supremacy