Some basic info about USB

I legit have never seen the battery used at all. They often use a plug, a lightning bolt confusingly, or don't even label it at all.

All they had to do was require stamped icons on the ends of the plugs in the spec, and instead we have the current cable mystery clusterfuck 🤦

USB = Unintelligible Symbols of Bewilderment

SuperSpeed is not a "legacy" name.

It's the name of a transfer rate.

I do not trust the maker of this infographic if they cannot understand some basic facts.

exept when manufacturer don't give a fuck and print whatever or nothing next to the port. like always

TL;DR: The USB Implementers Forum is ridiculously bad at naming, symbols and communication in general. (And they don't seriously enforce any of this anyway, so don't even bother learning it.)

Thank God there's a standard for USB. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one. And another one....

A small correction on USB PD...

It's not just USB PD that supports power delivery: Standard USB from way back in 1.0 also supports power delivery to devices as standard, but it's only up to 100mA in USB 1.0, 500mA in USB 2.0 and 900mA in USB 3.0, all at 5V.

USB PD is a dedicated power delivery USB protocol that supports much higher currents (up to 5A) as well as dynamically configured voltages (so, not fixed as 5V anymore) though it's all negotiated so your 5V-only phones isn't going to just get burned with 20V from a USB PD charger.

Since Power = Current * Voltage USB PD can put out quite a lot of power for supporting devices (the maximum depending on what both sides support), which means much faster transmission of power via USB which for example means faster charging of chargeable devices via USB with USB PD.

Anyways, the point being that even really old USB 1.0 can charge your device (just really really slow, though you'll be hard pressed to find anything that doesn't support at least USB 2.0 which can send 5x the current of 1.0 hence charge 5x faster than it), and that standard charging speed goes up with each new Standard USB generation since each has a higher maximum current than the previous one, so for example a standard USB 3.1 charger without USB PD support can still push a nice amount of power down the line to charge devices. It's just that with USB PD things really take off (though only up to a shared maximum that both sides support) and it can push enough power to support larger devices such as full-blown monitors or even charging notebooks.

You won't find these symbols on most devices though (certainly not on any macbook as the picture suggests).

LOL, yeah, manufacturers don't follow this at all.

Most devices don't have theese symbols and basically say fuck you unless you know how to find the specs

What is the difference between USA and USB?

One connects to all your devices and accesses your data, the other is a hardware standard.

It gets even better, each function of the port also needs proper support from the cable. Often cables do not support the full spec of usb to cut costs.

While the symbols in the post are often put on computers, for usb cables this is seldom done (only a few brands do).

Source: had to find a cable that supports both DP and PD to connect a portable external monitor after I lost the original cable. (1/9 cables worked)

That is not what I'm suggesting. I'm not saying charging only cables shouldn't exist. I'm saying what everything does should be clearer.

Also don't forget the dubious AliExpress devices that have all these symbols, no data lines, Vcc at 12V and ground attached to a loose M8 nut.

I just love that in a world with Power Delivery (PD) they decided that the best way to indicate Display Port (DP) was to have an ambiguous symbol involving a P and a D.

ai generated lol

The USB standards are just... Comically overcomplicated. And almost everything about it is optional. They need a full revamp, making it simpler and mandatory on all future ports, devices and cables.

But they won't do that, will they.

Meanwhile my thumb drive:

The best I can do is 20Mbps with the curve xy = 1

USB keeps changing their own standard every 2 years why bother learning it.

My laptop has two USBC ports. No logos of any kind. They are Thunderbolt 4. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

The USB-C standard and particularly the USB PD (power delivery) is so complex it almost feels comical.

The PD standard document (freely available on usb.org) is over 800 pages long and features a lengthy part about the role of the cable alone which is mostly hidden from the user. Here's a short video about this issue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bZ0y9G-4Pc

Why not label the ports and cables with:

• 10Gb/s
• 2.1Amps
• 1080p at 60hz

It's future proof and doesn't need a decoder manual other than basic literacy. It can be in whatever language the fucking keyboard is. If you want to be redundant but even more clear:

• Universal Serial Bus -> (this hole right here)
• Speed: 40Gb/s
• Power: 2.4Amps
• Audio/Video: 4K at 120Hz or 8K at 30Hz

Every device I have just has a couple of blue ones and a couple of black ones, perhaps some orange ones and some USB-C ports, and good luck figuring out what they all can do. No symbols anywhere.

What about red USB-A ports, and USB-C ports with no symbol by them at all (like on phones and desktop PCs)?

Who the hell makes a type-c port that only runs at 2.0 speeds?

Additionally, USB 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2 labels provide no information on the speed. Rather, "Gen 1" means 5Gb/s, Gen 2 means 10 and Gen 2×2 means 20Gb/s. These "Gen" labels are seldom found on products however.

So for example USB 3.2 Gen 1 is 5Gb/s while USB 3.1 Gen 2 is 10Gb/s

USB in 1996: Let's make one connector that handles everything

USB in 2024: Let's make one connector do thirty different incompatible combinations of things

I have never seen one with SS, but maybe they removed that part in Germany.

Why use more words when less is easier.

That meme sucked

I've literally never seen any of these except the top symbol.

Handy guide, but this whole USB situation is a cock-up, since it needs the freakin guide in the first place.

"Universal"

The standard might be complicated if you want the specifics, but for everyday use it's incredibly simple, and I love it. The number of times I needed this information is 1, even though most of my devices, including an external monitor, are USB-C.

Well, except all the legacy symbols on devices older than current gen.

I think that maybe having two similar lightning bolt symbols that mean different things wasn't the best design decision that the USB guys could have made.

Came here disappointed to see no one said anything about Black D inside white P

Edit: yes, I have the humour of a 16 yo

I've never seen the one enclosed in a battery, but I've seen the rest.

yet all I needed is a "this side up" symbol ...

"Basic"

Those will legally do pretty much anything depending on what cable you use anyway. (and what cable you end up using is pretty much a surprise until you've tested it.)

All thanks to USB making our lives more simple. (yay)

Ok, I suppose it is more simple in quite a few ways.

The superiority of german aryan ports proven once again.

(this is a joke, nazism is evil and I hate it)

Thanks for succinctly explaining what thunderbolt is

some additional info about USB. If your cable/connector is old, idk how old is requred, the names and standards are actually completely different now than they used to be, but they're adopted into the new standards, so you have to keep this in mind when trying to recognize this stuff.

thanks USB forum, you guys are the best :)

I can't even find a decent PCIE USB/Thunderbolt card (one that support VFIO would be nice and actually has a Linux kernel driver, so ASM and Renesas are both out..)

holy shit. thanks, usb.

It’s useful but it got me even more lost 😅

So many different standards my god.

Every computer store should have a poster about this.

Insert thank you gif

Now do the cables 😈

No symbol for power-only ports?

white P inside a black D