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After they killed the czars, they turned on the people.
That's the part tankie won't teach you folks but a quick Wikipedia search should explain to you what they did to the peasants, esp in Ukraine and Kazakhstan
After they killed the czars, they turned on the people.
Yea, they helped the people by ending famines, doubling life expectancy, getting to 99% literacy rates, provided free college and healthcare, and democratized government.
That's the part tankie won't teach you folks but a quick Wikipedia search should explain to you what they did to the peasants, esp in Ukraine and Kazakhstan
Are you genuinely under the impression that Marxists somehow spent their entire lives avoiding western narratives around the USSR, read dozens of books on history and theory, and somehow have never once seen the western point of view? Are you specifically referring to events, or their entire history?
As an example, prior to the current Russo-Ukranian conflict escalating in 2022, in 2019 62% of Ukranians said they were worse off then, than under Communism. Ukranians enjoyed being a part of the USSR more than they do being a part of the current Ukranian State. Similarly, Central Asia (including Kazakhstan) is not without Soviet Nostalgia either.
This is, of course, after you said using violence against oppressors makes you no better than them, which automatically makes you anti-Palestine, pro-Confederacy, anti-Haitian Slave Revolt, anti-French Revolution, and against all violent liberatory movements, if we assume you to be morally consistent.
As an example, prior to the current Russo-Ukranian conflict escalating in 2022, in 2019 62% of Ukranians said they were worse off then, than under Communism. Ukranians enjoyed being a part of the USSR more than they do being a part of the current Ukranian State.
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Make some fake survey to justify fake position, ignore 100 years of history and current situation.
Delusional haha
Which part is fake, and why? Your beloved wikipedia agrees with what I'm saying here too, I just thought you might like to see direct sources. Do you have a single source?
In a 2009 Pew survey, 62% of Ukrainians said life was worse economically nowadays compared to the Soviet era.[14] A 2013 Gallup survey showed that 56% of Ukrainians thought the dissolution of the USSR was harmful, while only 23% thought it was beneficial.[7] In a 2016 survey, 60% of Ukrainians above the age of 35 said life was better under the USSR.[8] However, by 2020, a survey from the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology showed that 34% of Ukrainians regretted the dissolution of the USSR, compared to 50% who do not regret it. Regret was highest in Eastern Ukraine where 49% of Ukrainians regretted it compared to 35% who did not, while it was lowest in Western Ukraine where only 15% regretted it compared to 69% who did not.[19]
As an example, prior to the current Russo-Ukranian conflict escalating in 2022, in 2019 62% of Ukranians said they were worse off then, than under Communism.
Bro.. Site your source properly.
Cherry picking survey to support your position while ignoring overwhelming majority voting to exit Russian clown state along with every other republic.
Saying this shit while Ukraine has to fight a war for its existance is beyond idiotic. Who do you think you covering with this?
Do you ever wonder why Warsaw pack states joined EU and NATO first chance they got?
Must be because life under Russian boot was that great lol
Cherry picking survey to support your position while ignoring overwhelming majority voting to exit Russian clown state along with every other republic.
Didn't cherry pick at all, Socialism was better for Ukranians and every group in the former USSR. Additionally, it's quite the opposite to say that most people wanted out of the USSR, the vast majority wished to retain the USSR in a popular vote. The USSR was dissolved illegally against the will of the people.
Saying this shit while Ukraine has to fight a war for its existance is beyond idiotic. Who do you think you covering with this?
Are you under the impression that the Russian Federation is somehow still Communist, or are you just racist against Russians? What's your point, here? Are you saying you hate the USSR because they were Russian, not because they were Communists, or was this just a fumbled point?
Do you ever wonder why Warsaw pack states joined EU and NATO first chance they got?
Shock Therapy destroyed these countries, 7 million people died due to the collapse of the USSR. The Warsaw Pact nations flocked to the more stable western nations as the same western nations plundered the remnants of the USSR.
Must be because life under Russian boot was that great lol
Again, as we can see, life was better under Socialism, more economically stable, and more democratic, hence why people that actually lived in the USSR have a highly consistent favorable opinion.
Please, read modern history books written after the opening of the Soviet Archives, where historians were finally granted access to internal historical evidence. Right now your only argument is just that you think Russians themselves are bad, which is blatant racism.
Y'all keep spamming these copy paste bits in bad faith.
Peopleade their choice and y'all just can't cope with it.
NO MEANS NO
No amount of y'all crying will change that.
If people thought life was so good, why no political parties in any major form present to represent this "desire"