Rare polar bear shot dead by police in Iceland after being thought a threat
Rare polar bear shot dead by police in Iceland after being thought a threat
Environment agency advised that the animal posed a danger to elderly woman in remote summer house in Westfjords
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There was no hurry. It could have been captured and released back in Greenland, but Iceland won't do that because of the cost, so they just kill it. How much would you be willing to contribute to prevent a polar bear from being killed?
No hurry? The woman in the cabin that spotted the bear was just a wooden door or a glass window away from the animal.
Also, Greenland doesn't want them back, they even shoot the bears on sight if they are too close to human settlements. They do however have a quota and each bear that is killed in Iceland contributes to this quota.
There was no hurry.
How do you know? Please show me a map of where it was found in relation to places where people live.
It could have been captured and released back in Greenland
How do you know this was actually doable? Why do you think the polar bear would survive being dropped off in a random place?
but Iceland won’t do that because of the cost
And they should be forced to bear a cost burden they can't afford?
How do you know?
The articles I have read only say that the woman saw it outside her house. There was no indication that it had attempted anything other than rummage through garbage. And the police had to travel about 30 km by boat to get there, so the response time couldn't have been quick
Please show me a map of where it was found in relation to places where people live.
Well, another article says it was in Höfðaströnd There are only a few buildings there and spread far apart, so the only relevant person is the one woman.
How do you know this was actually doable?
They attempted it before so they thought it was doable. There was a commission to decide how to handle polar bears in the future and all they said was that it cost too much.
And they should be forced to bear a cost burden they can’t afford?
It didn't say that they couldn't afford it, just that they wouldn't pay for it. (You keep rephrasing things in a way that was not intended to try to make your position stronger. That's called a strawman argument. You should stop that.) And they seem to be getting a lot of complaints from Icelanders that are upset that they killed the bear, so it probably wouldn't be forced, but something that many Icelanders would be willing to pay.
You still haven’t explained how they were supposed to get it to Greenland without Greenland’s or Denmark’s permission. Just drop it out of a plane with a parachute?
You do understand that Greenland is under no obligation to let a polar bear that might be carrying deadly pathogens into their country, right?
That would require an effort by conservation groups, the various governments, and polar bear experts. If you really wanted to know you could check the plans they made in previous attempts.
I certainly would not be involved so I don't know why you think I should be the one that comes up with any plan. I don't have to be a subject matter expert to advocate for a cause. I don't have to be an OB-GYN to advocate for abortion rights. I don't have to be an environmental scientist to advocate for action on climate change. And I don't have to be an expert on polar bears to be able to say "Maybe we shouldn't kill polar bears."
That would require an effort by conservation groups, the various governments, and polar bear experts
That's exactly the problem that both the article and I have brought up. Greenland has no obligation to take the polar bear and has good reasons not to.
Do you expect me to personally negotiate with Greenland?
No, I expect you to explain to me why Greenland would accept such negotiations with Iceland when it would put their own polar bear population at risk.
That's something you should ask Greenland, something one might do in some sort of negotiation.
Why am I the one that has to come up with a plausible way for your idea to work?
You seem to want to know the answer to the question and I have already given you all I can. so I will just repeat:
I certainly would not be involved so I don’t know why you think I should be the one that comes up with any plan. I don’t have to be a subject matter expert to advocate for a cause. I don’t have to be an OB-GYN to advocate for abortion rights. I don’t have to be an environmental scientist to advocate for action on climate change. And I don’t have to be an expert on polar bears to be able to say “Maybe we shouldn’t kill polar bears.”