Canada mulling ‘game plan’ if U.S. takes far-right, authoritarian shift.

I actually have a crackpot theory that Trump's little attempt to buy Greenland (yeah, that happened) was really part of a plan Putin had dictated. And that Putin was trying to align USA+Greenland, Russia, and then Canada. Which is like 25% of Earth's land mass.

I base it on nothing more than maps and stuff.

Like if Putin is trying to play RISK...

Because the US is the only country that could feasibly invade Canada.

I would love to say that I have hope that Canada will be willing to break that treaty, but Canada is still financially dependent on the US, not to mention that people who care a lot about "muh Canadian identity" would definitely be against taking Americans.

Honestly I think secessionism has more of a chance than Americans being let into Canada.

Iirc the stipulations are convoluted. I moved closer to the Canadian border though, just in case.

Canada won't be as eager to take US refugees as you hope. I can't think of a small population dealing with massive refugee inflows from a place that much larger. Think of how destabilising the refugee migrations from Syria were on Europe. Lots of LGBT and sympathetic cases of course but lots of crazy and the amount of entitlement would be overwhelming.

The rest of the industrialised worried will have angry Americans in their faces screaming about their first and second amendment rights every day if there is an exodus.

The whole world is shifting hard to the right. It's pretty crazy to see happen in real time.

Something something "weak men" something something "hard times"

They don't need to elect anything. Fascism is inherently militaristic.

If the US goes full fascist, then it's only a matter of time.

No place in the world will be safe.

Poilievre isn't conservative. He's pretty much far right.

Two years still. Lots can change and people will see through the piss poor attempt at the Conservative rebranding of Poilievre.

We basically flip between Liberal and Conservative on schedule. Trudeau took a gamble on positive numbers calling the last election early but I think his brand is essentially dead. PP is getting a huge image treatment right now if you've seen his tanned face and new persona, like they're throwing full weight in to making him relatable, and you can tell what a massive effort that is lol. I don't see too much of a material difference between LPC and CPC though, CPC is more shameless but the things LPC does to sovereign nations inside our country should be setting off more alarm bells than they are. People forget those treaties are with the Crown not the Canadian government. Also fuck the Liberals for not changing the vote, they campaigned so hard on that and I can't believe I fell for it first time around. NDP are polling decently well too but with the voting being what it is they're screwed. Although I'm not a huge fan of Jagmeet and how he became leader and think NDP need to do better with their branding and messaging, right now it's like "we're liberals but more authentic" but they need to be more forthcoming with the economic vision and why it will benefit everyone regardless of their identity. A straight white tradesman needs to get the message that he has just as much interest in voting NDP as a nonconforming individual, and I think they really need to tie these messages back to the economic benefit and power of having solidarity with others in achieving material political goals.

Can't wait!

Never close your borders to another country's brain drain

What's the bad news?

Don’t forget the racism so bad they’ll screw themselves as long as it also screws “the wrong people.”

It's not that they believe welfare is immoral. They believe welfare that comes without the Jesus Strings attached (i.e., welfare from the state) undermines their ability to market Jesus by giving fully Jesus-encumbered welfare to the hard up.

Most of them don't really believe that. In fact I'm pretty sure most of them don't actually have many beliefs other than "if i just moving goalposts fast enough, I'll never have to form a new opinion on anything."

It doesn't matter who did what so long as their side is right.

You should take another look at what the CPC is focusing on. At their convention this month they voted on what to focus on as a party; two anti-trans policies passed the policy for affordable housing did not. Is the CPC as far right as the US Republican party, no they're not, but Poilievre is happy to court people who are. Also he won't answer non-vetted questions which is a different issue but still rubs me the wrong way.

Yea I noticed in the news recently that Germany is having trouble with the rise of fascist groups as well. I hope there are non-violent course corrections for us all this time.

Citation needed

I can't find a single source that ranks the US above Canada on quality of life. You got any kind of source for that that isn't anecdotal?

If the country famous for shooting kids twice a day has a better QOL, things sound pretty rough.

I like traveling and I was like oh Canada has so much open land, maybe I should look into traveling and the housing there, and I was completely blown away by the unbelievable cost and just practical shortage. Truly the best of luck to you guys.

Are there any housing policies coming out anytime soon that might address those problems?

I'm just going to keep traveling.

The US military itself, yeah probably not...But a group of renegade Americans headed North we might be able to do something about.

Weaponize the geese

I meant in the context of self defense because it cannot rely on the US, not that the US would attempt some kind of attack on Canada.

I don't think the context is so much military related but rather diplomatic and economic.

Does the last sentence really come as an obvious conclusion from the first two?

I meant in the context of general self-reliance because Canada may not be able to rely on the US.

The democrats are pretty fucking bad though. Nothing like the Republicans domestically but in foreign policy, which is more relevant to us foreigners, they might be even bigger warmongers.

Why wouldn't Canada and the rest of the world fall in step? The same environmental and economic pressures exist everywhere. Again, not as bad as in the US, but it's going to get worse everywhere.

I use a spray bottle on my cats. Has Canada even tried that?

I've lived in China and I can assure you that by comparison our domestic spying and propaganda are as laughable as our attempts at manufacturing consumer electronics. (and indeed the reasons for our failures at both of those things are somewhat related)

Nah, the right in dangerous up here as well. We've imported alt-right fascism wholesale.

Even is we forget about the attempt at our own Jan 6 with the "Freedom Convoy", the most recent Conservative Party convention had them approving of policies to limit transgender healthcare and ending "forced political, cultural or ideological training of any kind", essentially a giant rejection of "wokeness" and a call to action for a return to "the good old days".

You'd think so, but that poison is spreading up here pretty quietly and quickly.

The points that the article suggested were political refugees and NATO weakening due to US isolation starting from Obama. Not sure how xenophobia or removal of rights has anything to do with how Canada operates.

But i know I was asking how to determine far right so thats fair. As of now, I cant tell the difference between right and far right. What I usually expect to hear is anything that isnt chosen by progressives is far right lately.

I have to ask what... if I ask then im a far right? Is that the metric you go by? I absolutely love how all i did was ask what people consider far right and i get downvoted with no explanation except 'hurrr why are you asking, you should know! Isnt it programmed into your blood?'

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