Hi, can someone explain to my small brain what reaction this is or what happened?
Hi, can someone explain to my small brain what reaction this is or what happened?
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When I was cleaning a heatsink from an older laptop, the aluminum, and I think also a bit of copper, started to disintegrate very quickly and sometimes violently. I used a cleaning solution that was made for removing thermal paste and cleaning CPUs and PCBs. After some time, the only thing left of the heatsink was some grey powder or ash. I have cleaned many heatsinks and CPUs with it before, and this never happened, and I can't reproduce it.
Copper metal "dissolves" in nitric acid (HNO3). Actually, the nitrate ion oxidizes the copper metal to copper (II) ion while itself being transformed to NO2 gas in the process; the copper (II) ion then binds to six water molecules.
It looks like you are using this one: ArctiClean 1
Which seems to be specifically made for this application and supposedly consists of “citrus and soy based solvents”. Aluminium is solved by highly acidic (like sulphuric acid) and highly basic (like sodium hydroxide) solutions. Which it really doesn’t sound like until it somehow broke down in a way it got more potent.
Was it maybe a specific thermal paste with a metal like mercury or gallium inside? Supposedly they can quickly dissolve aluminium. Of course, I don’t know what happened but maybe it was dissolved by the cleaning solution and then rapidly reacted with the Aluminium of the heat sink. If so, that would still make me wonder about the bubbling and foaming when the cleaning solution comes in contact with the left overs.
I would assume that nobody makes thermal paste out of anything terribly reactive, but... That .gif looks like something out of a NileRed video.
IIRC, gallium makes aluminum get super brittle, which might cause it to crumble like that; but the foaming makes me think that the heat sink might have managed to oxidize all the way through, and it's aluminum oxide reacting with the cleaner.
Yeah, I have seen a few aluminum heatsinks corroded by gallium and other liquid metal, but it never looked like this. However, I'm still sure it is very similar to that reaction, if not the same, with something extra, if that makes sense. I think you're onto something - something happened to this aluminum, but it looked and felt normal until I added the solution.
also I love NileRed's videos; I hope he keeps his promised upload schedule this year! :D
Yes, I am using that! I actually don't know what thermal paste was used, but I know it was not liquid metal and it was not the OEM paste. However, there was almost no, if any, paste left on the heatsink/plate when this happened. I think your explanation makes sense, but why does the reaction get more violent when I diluted it more by adding more cleaning solution? It seems like the solution was the catalyst, but I don't know how or for what. Also, this stuff is pretty weak for a cleaning solution, and it never happened again with any other heatsink using this exact bottle of solution.
I can't get your images to load, but to me, a materials chemist, it definitely sounds like you've managed to dissolve the aluminium and copper by using an acidic solution. Presumably, the cleaning solution contains some electrolyte that should help dissolve oxides, but if the solution is corrosive enough to oxidise the aluminium and/or copper the electrolyte will make the reaction more aggressive by rapidly dissolving the protective oxide layer as it is formed, such that the aluminium/copper is further corroded.
To be fair, this is just speculation based on what I've read here. I could maybe give a better analysis if you let me know what solution you've used, and what the heat sink/paste were made of, and if I can get the pictures of the resulting product ("ash") to load.
Ye this looks like aluminium that's reacted to gallium
you're seeing elecrochemical corrosion. if you scratch aluminum in such a way that:
- oxide layer is removed, and
- finely divided copper is deposited, and
- oxide layer can't reform
you'll see rapid corrosion of aluminum. normally, alumnium doesn't corrode because of very tight oxide layer. here, oxide layer is removed first by scratching and this also deposits copper in electrical contact with aluminum. then, citrate can bind aluminum removing some of oxide layer, making aluminum more exposed and so more reactive. if you used gallium as heat transfer compound (sp?) then gallium will also disturb oxide layer and make corrosion of aluminum faster. copper elements are in this case actually protected from corrosion (by dissolving aluminum)