Gen Z advocacy group launches TikTok campaign against voting for Jill Stein

The kids are alright.

Good. Scammers need to be called out and avoided at all costs.

A vote for Stein is a vote for Trumph

Anything that helps legitimize trump (increase overall pop vote numbers, regardless of loss) or props up green party and stein with a stated intention to get trump elected, in fact "helps trump"

Considering a vote for Dr. Jill Stein? I'm open if you have some insight I'm missing, but in my experience the green party has some exciting ideas on the surface, as lip service, but the party doesn't put in meaningful work in interim government outside of a presidential election cycle every 4 years. So it's a meaningless party.

You may think, "I'm in a solid red or blue state where my vote can't influence at the national level", but I find it hard to support Green/Stein in any capacity with how blatantly Stein has, in my opinion, been knowingly running as a spoiler candidate. The Green party has a (now publicly stated) intention to have Harris lose Michigan specifically. Below is clip from a Stein rally in Dearborn, Michigan. A surrogate for Stein is about to introduce her and spells out their intentions very clearly during remarks,

"We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic... we could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.”

I would ask anyone considering a vote for Stein, in any state, to consider that truth they speak openly - When they are admitting that they can't win, stating a goal to defeat the Harris campaign and acknowledging that Harris likely cannot win the election without Michigan, the undeniable net of that is that they are working to directly secure a second trump presidency, in my opinion.

As I see it, we just cannot have it both ways in a two party system. If the green party was a serious movement working against two party politics (and I would personally embrace and support this) they would become THE platform for ranked choice voting with a green party candidate in every meaningful on/off year election to make that issue ubiquitous with green. They speak endlessly about the flawed two party system (with a clear bias towards shitting in dems), but in the current two party system we actually have, you can't cast a protest vote without actually casting a vote for trump in this election - And that cannot be stated more clearly than this green party spokesperson states it at this event before Stein speaks.

Here is a link to direct feed of that green party rally in Dearborn Michigan if anyone wants to see first hand to consider. It's a longer video, but it starts at the point discussed and surrogate makes the above quoted statement within about the first minute speaking. https://youtu.be/WKSm2FQ8z60?t=5153

And trump acknowledges as much directly mentioning Stein and green party campaign by name recently,

"Cornel West — he’s one of my favorite candidates, Cornel West," Trump said. "And I like — I like her also. Jill Stein. I like her very much. You know why? She takes 100% from [Biden]. [West] takes 100%. Kennedy’s probably 50/50, but he’s a fake.”

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/trump-speech-jill-stein-cornel-west-rcna158627

I've heard individual positions I like from West, Stein and others in the past, but in my opinion if they aren't fighting to be the bridge to engage the flawed structure of elections in this country as third parties, these are just campaigns driven more by individual candidate ego than a motivation for systemic change.

Those are my thoughts.

Shouldn't be hard to convince anyone not to vote for her who doesn't hate minorities.

Just let him know that David Duke endorsed Jill Stein.

If that isn't a literal mic drop on her campaign idk what more can be done. Just make sure everyone knows before they approach a voting booth.

Yall mfs gonna cost Universalmonk his Lada.

I heard a piece on Here And Now today about a group of single issue voters in Dearborn that is actively working to disrupt and damage the Harris campaign. They are trying to get dems to vote for Stein.

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The Green Party thanks Lemmy for all the publicity it has given to the Jill Stein campaign

Uncommited movement: "Guess I won't vote"

How do you do fellow young adults.

Reminder: Jill is a transphobic ableist who doesn't believe autism exists

Good. Fuck Jill Stein. Fucking grifter loser.

Didn't I read something somewhere about her being a Nazi or Russian spy or some shit?

Shill who?

Perception operation, TikTok can be very effective in this regard.

What would be harassment on Lemmy (learn to take a hint already), actually makes sense on tiktok. With it's giant, young user base, there should be someone you can convince to vote for Harris.

However, I do think getting Jill Stein's name out there could backfire. Remember, it was the media that made trump a viable candidate.

they should probably focus more on voting for Kamala Harris

A lot of (and probably most of) the people supporting Stein currently are Muslims whose main interest in voting is regarding the genocide, and on social issues are generally more conservative (and may not agree with her on stuff like LGBTQ) and may not align with either major political party so likely wouldn't be voting otherwise. I've seen a lot of Muslims support Stein on social media and the Stein rally I went to was almost entirely Muslims which is where I'm getting this impression. This is a case where the main parties need to earn their votes, and voting for Stein does not mean voting for Trump because they might not have voted blue either way.

(And regarding Lemmy drama most of the people here are voting PSL anyways so trying to convince people here not to vote for Stein is pointless because it's the wrong audience.)

if you live in a state with preferential voting (eg alaska, maine?) wouldn't you be better off voting green if they represent you views better?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_complicity_in_Israeli_war_crimes_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war

ENOUGH YANK SPAM.

So much energy from democrats that they should instead spend on pressuring their party leadership to change their evil policy of genocide support.

If you’re getting convinced by anti-green rhetoric, I don’t blame you. The greens are pretty bad.

You can always vote for the party for socialism and liberation instead. They’re running de la Cruz on a platform of Palestinian statehood and an end to arms shipments to israel.