American XL bully dogs to be banned after attacks, Rishi Sunak says
American XL bully dogs to be banned after attacks, Rishi Sunak says
Campaigners have welcomed the move to outlaw the breed they argue is "a clear and present threat to public health", but concerns have been raised it may not be practical and lead to other kinds of dogs being prohibited.
I'm not a dog breed expert, but...
The other day an agressive dog that looked like a pitbull, suddenly lunged at me barking loudly... It was about 10ft away from me but still scared the shit out of me
The owner yanked the dog back on its leash and i thought, "FML, the only thing that saved me from a deadly mauling was a 3/4 inch wide piece of nylon with a metal clip the guy bought off amazon for $5"
Unsurprising. Large “power breeds” like pit bulls I have always found questionable to have.
No restrictions or licenses? No muzzles at least?
A good thing they banned them.
Though I still dislike the outright malice and hate I see when a pit bull in a photo might be doing nothing but staring at a sunset. A bit hate crazy.
I used to have a Pitbull, such a beautiful girl, who one day chased and killed one of our cats she'd grown up with. My friend had her brother, such a beautiful boy, who one day chased and killed one of their cats.
Last week, on my lifestyle block, two Pitbulls appeared and killed my chickens before I could stop them. I chased the fuckers off but haven't found where they came from.
That is all.
Every couple of weeks I feed mine a toddler, it seems to keep the violent tendencies away.
Dog breeds all exist for a purpose either still relevant or now redundant.
Before you get a dog, understand what that breed exists for. Even the best obedience training may not overcome generations of refined and selected natural instincts.
It's never the dogs fault. It is always your fault.
My neighbor has a pit mix and it snarled at me gnashing its teeth once as she walked by. I was just standing there by my car minding my own business barely even acknowledging them. I jump and yell Jesus wtf lady omg. She just made pathetic excuses, he keeps me safe, never does that, it's fiiiiine etc. Ive told her numerous times she needs to train it at the bare minimum, preferably destroy it. I've observed it doing the same to other people as they walk past. I bought pepper spray and look out for them very carefully whenever I go to my car now. I bet it's just a matter of time before someone gets mauled and I hope it's not me. Fucking hate those things.
Dealing withpitbulls and cops are pretty much the same:
There are good pitbulls and there are bad pitbulls, but they're all bad until you know them. Better off not interacting and finding out .....
They are poor misbreeds anyway.
ITT: bleeding hearts who don’t understand the difference between animal species and dog breeds.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A ban on American bully XL dogs was already being looked at after shocking footage emerged of an attack in Birmingham last weekend that left an 11-year-old girl with serious injuries.
South Yorkshire Police reported four separate dog attacks on children in two days, including one where a 15-year-old was taken to hospital after being savaged by an XL bully in Sheffield.
Any ban should be based on "robust evidence", a spokeswoman for the coalition said - adding it was "deeply concerned" by the "lack of data behind this decision and its potential to prevent dog bites".
But there is concern a move to prohibit the animal may not be practical due to the American XL bully not being recognised as a breed by the Kennel Club, which could mean any ban may inadvertently outlaw other kinds of dogs.
As head of the Merseyside force back in 2007, he had introduced such a measure following the death of five-year-old Ellie Lawrenson, who was mauled by a banned pitbull-type dog at her grandmother's home in St Helens on New Year's Day.
In a joint statement, Bully Watch, the Campaign for Evidence Based Regulation of Dangerous Dogs (CEBRDD) and Protect Our Pets claimed the breed was a "a clear and present threat to public health".
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This article was interesting, and suggested that there could be a specific issue with the breeding lines of the XLs in the UK. Worth a read for anyone who's actually interested in reading further than a headline.
"Genetics matter, but genetics are a nudge in a given direction. They're not a destiny," Evan MacLean, the director of the Arizona Canine Cognition Center at the University of Arizona, who was not involved in the research, tells NPR. "We've known that for a long time in human studies, and this paper really suggests that the same is true for dogs."
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/28/1095390872/dog-breeds-behavior-study
I've noticed once someone starts talking about "breed determines behavior, it's in their genes!!!!". It doesn't take much more for them to start saying the same about other animals, like humans.
“Garbage dogs for garbage people”
Oh my springer will be sad. There are 4 dogs in our area that brings him out of his shell from being very careful and cautious, to a raving loon that sends him to loony town... it would be a shame if these two frisky buddies couldn't play.
I've got an Am Staff/German Shepherd mix and she is literally a baby. Whenever I'm on the couch she wants up and cuddles. If I go to bed she wants to sleep next to me. Even insists on making sure I touch her paw while she sleeps. Raise your dog right, socialise them, train them, and they won't be a problem.
Thank fuck I don't live in the UK. It's disgusting how they can go into your home and "destroy" a member of your family even if there are no complaints from anyone and never once been an incident. I hate violence, but I would absolutely become violent if the state tried to murder a member of my family without any just cause.
It's really disheartening to see Reddit's irrational pit bull venom is just as present here. Notice how rarely you see comments from animal industry professionals chiming in with these opinions. It's not because professionals don't have their own breed biases, and they don't typically keep quiet about them, either. It's that most people with a lot of day-to-day experience with dogs don't share this opinion. Their experiences don't match public perception.
Bite statistics and behavioral euthanasias both in private and public spheres are anything but transparent. They also often rely upon witness statement accuracy, which is not reliable nor scientific. There simply isn't enough accurate information available to support such a vitriolic, knee-jerk reaction to a dog's breed in and of itself. There are too many variables to consider to accept that mindset as rational.
I encourage anyone who cares about these issues and who loves animals and people to consider volunteering. There are a lot of opportunities out there that you might be surprised are available. It's not just shelters who need volunteers, either, and you can find opportunities in an array of different settings and ways of helping. You might find that experience will give you a broader understanding of how complex these problems are, and how we can work to solve them.