No Stupid Questions @lemmy.world lamermann @preserve.games 1 yr. ago

What's the deal with beehaw.org?

Is there drama or a story I'm missing? As I understand it, from lemmy.world I can see their posts but they cannot see mine. Why did beehaw block lemmy.world?

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There's no actual drama. It's just that Beehaw admins have a specific view on how their instance should be, and for that they need stricter behaviour and content control. Based on that they defederated lemmy.world due to [ipsis digitis] "inability to effectively moderate that instance’s users".

I am not too big of a fan of defederation, nor of stricter admin/moderator control, but in this specific case I can understand and agree with their decision, even if I use content from both instances - it makes sense in the context.
- True, it makes sense if that were their vision.
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- For anyone interested, they explained the reasoning behind this particular defederation here:
  
  https://docs.beehaw.org/docs/important-questions-decisions-and-reflections/on-defederation/
  
  At the end of the day beehaw wants to be tightly moderated and it's kind of imposible to properly moderate huge amounts of users at the moment with their tools so they decided to ban big instances that don't require any verification to join
  
  So basically, they want to be like reddit with authoritative mods and overreactive bans.
- Ah. Technically, could they re-federate with Lemmy.world whenever they want or does re-federation require some sort of approval from lemmy.world admins?
  
  As long as .world doesn't defederate them back, Beehaw can re-federate whenever they want.
  
  I’m hoping they will. I subscribed to some beehaw communities that look appealing. I chose Lemmy.world out of convenience and I also appreciate the dude behind it…once things settle it would be sad if they don’t allow any LW people because of a few shitposters.
  
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It's just that the moderation tools aren't yet there to allow a server that wants low drama to federate with a server that's attracting a lot of general-public attention.
- Good point. I assume they'll improve as time goes on.
Thanks for the links! I guess that's the power of the Fediverse; everyone can do or not do their own thing. ☺️
- Sadly not anyone, only admins. Beehaw situation is risk with big instances. At least it's easy to change one if you start to dislike current.
  
  But anyone can set up an instance and become admin 😉
You can read their original announcement and reasoning here: https://beehaw.org/post/567170

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