@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox, largely because I like supporting an alternative (non-Blink) rendering engine - I think a rendering engine monoculture is very dangerous for the internet as a whole.
@jon@vivaldi.net After dropping Opera, I now mostly use Waterfox. Vivaldi is also on my desktop and laptop. But so is Brave, Firefox and DuckDuckGO. Edge is also on there, but only because MS won't allow me to remove it :(
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox since forever, but with a 2-3 year spell with Opera around 2005 (when Firefox was indescribably slow and unusable). Now just inertia keeping me there. And the feeling that it’s the last hold-out of non-Chromium based browsers. And more recently, continued Manifest v2 support.
@jon@vivaldi.net I’m currently trying Zen, which is FF inside and Arc outside, basically.
Re: why, I think Chrome is the new IE6, and we need more engines to keep the web open
@jon@vivaldi.net I would love to use Vivaldi, but unfortunately the Ad-Blocker on Android isn't very good - Firefox using ublock-extension or Brave is doing a much better job there.
@jon@vivaldi.net Chrome for better Android integration and web unfortunately is made thinking chrome, some sites not open correctly in Firefox so ... A maintain Firefox for web development only, every other task Chrome
@jon@vivaldi.net Pale Moon. It's single-process, so if something goes wrong, I can kill the browser simply. It supports the plugins and extensions I need, want, and use on a daily basis. It doesn't support DRM, RTC, or the concepts pushed on us by DoubleClick. I'm very happy with the browser.
@jon@vivaldi.net Firefox is my favorite when I can use it, but at least on my new Mac, I found Firefox was misbehaving for inexplicable reasons. Shrug, I don’t mind Safari that much, and for when AdGuard for Safari isn’t working, I also have AdGuard Home running on my home network.
@jon@vivaldi.net @Gargron@mastodon.social even though it’s more or less been EOL’d, Arc is by far and away my favorite browser I’ve ever used. Every little UX detail just makes so much sense to me. The chromeless UI, sidebar vertical tabs, folder/favorite/pinned tab organization, auto-archiving tabs, tab spaces, automatic PiP activation, quick actions in the ⌘+T omnibar…
FF is totally open source and often renders fonts better than Chromium-based browsers and the PDF reader is more robust. I'm currently working through an online training module and it's the only PDF program that lets me highlight sections of the provided documentation and will remember changes when I save the document.
Vivaldi has a ton of features and is pretty quick and responsive, especially on Android. Still having odd issues with the mail client and I'm really not sure what to make of or do with the new dashboard though.
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Just wish Google was not used in vivaldi , so when I don't want their influence I use ddg . if there is a way to keep Google completely out of Vivaldi. I'd like to know how.
Thanks MTT
@jon I’ve been using Vivaldi lately, but I also like Firefox and Librewolf. However the internet today feels like that of 2000, so many websites only work with todays IE (Chrome), so yeah, the options are either Chromium or Gecko; and the latter doesn’t work for all websites.
@jon@vivaldi.net Good relationship maerketing.
I used Firefox for many years, and I loved it. Before, I was a Netscape user. But Firefox's performance deteriorated over the years, and I switched to Chrome. When I discovered Brave, I moved to it, but it also had some issues, so I´m back to Chrome. Performance and productivity features are great. I am just very aware of data protection issues when using Google products. Still, use Firefox and Brave for some activities. Would Vivaldi be a good alternative?
Here's why: It's the only browser which doesn't force users into AI or is fully relying on ads. It's the only browser I can donate to per month or year (I won't count Mozilla/Firefox in cause Firefox is a product of the commercial part of Mozilla).
Finally: Vivaldi is the only browser company I know of which is owned by the employees.
I'd prefer to have a fully open source browser but I do understand the reason why Vivaldi isn't.
@jon@vivaldi.net I run with @Waterfox@mastodon.social and @brave@mastodon.social on my daily machines, but have access to #Opera, #Edge, #Firefox and #Chrome for UI testing.
@jon@vivaldi.net de puis que je utilise le navigateur Vivaldi j'ai une paix royale en plus des nombreuse fonctionnalité proposé sur ce navigateur Vivaldi je le trouve formidable merci beaucoup monsieur .
@jon@vivaldi.net I have no favourite browser anymore since Opera 12. I don't want to support the Chromium dominance but Firefox still feels clunky. I have some sympathy for the Zen browser project. And then there's Vivaldi, with a lot of stuff I appreciated when I was still using Opera. But … Chromium, you know 🤷.
@jon I already use Vivaldi since a botched Chromium browser update about a year ago. It's just a little bit sad that there's neither a lot of choice nor something like Chromium project but on a Gecko basis.
@jon@vivaldi.net After testing all the browsers my favourite is Vivaldi due to their focus on privacy and no crypto crap. I also like to browse their forums which has been helpful to me at times.
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Vivaldi is my daily driver, looking into Librewolf as my not-Chrome.
What I'd really like is the Vivaldi shell, as & tracker blocking, etc, with the Firefox HTML & js engines. No google or moz bullshit, just a nice clean shell and engines.
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I love Vivaldi for the theme. The overall design is awesome.
I also love Safari because the battery duration feels way longer when using a Mac.
Sometimes i take Vimb for lighter browsing, but for the most time i stay attached to Firefox for the whole browsing experience and sync my tablet, laptop & smartphone with it.
@jon I like Zen browser because it comes with vertical tabs, screenshot feature, and familiar dev tools.
Moreover, unlike Safari, it works well on macOS and Slack notification. When I checked my Slack tab on Safari, I usually found that it didn't load the page yet although I didn't shutdown or restart the computer.
Firefox because it isn't chromium, and I just like it. With chromium, google controls the web. Doesn't matter what kind of wrapper a third party puts on it. It's still chromium and it's still google.
@jon Firefox because of its tweaks. I admire what Vivaldi has achieved, but Firefox can achieve almost the same with extensions. The only thing missing in Firefox are native tab groups, but they are a work in progress according to their site.
If Firefox vanished tomorrow, I would quite likely use Vivaldi. I was an Opera user in the old days. Vivaldi is the only browser that follows that spirit today.
@jon@vivaldi.net OK, I tried them. They are nice to have, but for users who manage many tabs at the same time. It is not my case.
One thing I like a lot about Firefox is the about:config page. My main change is content.notify.backoffcount > 0. It stops the browser partial refreshes, and shows a web page only when its parts finished loading. In my experience, it makes the browsing faster and more comfortable for my eyes.
Vivaldi has been my daily driver since 1.0, i can't live without tab tiling and vertical tabs in my work. Would love to have the ability to sort my open tabs by domain or an alpha sort.
Please continue to improve the Adblock functions. It doesn't compare to manifest v2 ublock origin yet.