Hey, the thoughts I have while I'm showering do not account for the dystopic problems that'll likely prevent their implementation. My shower is a happy place.
PSA: At every Exxon Mobil I've been to, when the screen on the pump starts vomiting up ads as you're pumping your gas, if you tap the 2nd button from the top on the right side of the screen, it mutes it.
the screen will be large. Mostly because it was a good idea by some well-meaning soul. The problem is there was a soulless corpo bureaucrat that inserted themselves into the implementation process.
Teslas do this already with the center screen. And a charging stop usually isn't long enough to make that much meaningful progress on a show. You're there for like 15 mins a lot of time tops. Going to the bathroom/getting a sandwich/etc substantially eats into that time.
lol my kids are always disappointed when we’re done charging on road trips because they weren’t done with the episode of their TV show. We can’t even make it through one whole movie 20 minutes at a time on an all-day road trip. Supercharging really only allows enough time to stretch your legs and go for a quick walk before getting back on the road every ~200 miles or so, which you should absolutely be doing anyway.
Supercharging really only allows enough time to stretch your legs and go for a quick walk before getting back on the road every ~200 miles or so, which you should absolutely be doing anyway.
Tell that to my Canadian friend who considers anything under 7 hours an easy drive
A better idea is a vacuum nearby the charger. Meanwhile you pay for the charge you could also pay to vacuum the car. Maybe pay for that water less car wash
The couple I went to when I rented a polestar didn’t even have like a coffee shop or anything nearby. It seemed like such a wasted opportunity for capitalism to squeeze more money out of the traveling public. Oops I meant provide valuable services.
It only takes twenty minutes to fast charge an EV these days. Better to install them at places like Starbucks and McDonalds so travelers can stop, get a drink, and use the bathroom.
I like this idea just for bringing back drive-in theaters. They're pretty non-existent around me. Used to be several and it was always more fun than a regular theatre.
Oh wow you're right. Those supercharger stations must be pushing a lot of amperage. I had no idea it only took 15 minutes for 200 miles range. I assume there would be battery degradation over time but still impressive.
So batteries are happiest to charge with high power between like.. let’s call it 25-60%. Most of the time the cars will have you pull over to charge at 10-20% and you’ll only charge up to 70-75% tops.
Charging in that band would take like 15-20 mins. If you charge to 100%, it could easily take 30 mins just for the final 30% because the batteries can’t fast charge as they top off.
It really depends on the vehicle. The fastest ones (Kia/Hyundai) will charge 10-80% in ~18 minutes (350kW max). Something like a Nissan Leaf can take an hour or more.
I assume there would be battery degradation over time but still impressive.
There is degradation over time. Long term results are showing 10% capacity loss over a 10 year period. So if you start with a 300 mile range, after 10 years of use charging and discharging, you have 270 miles of range.
IMO, there's a lot of things EV charging stations should have that they do not. Free WiFi for one. It doesn't need to be fast, just enough that you can use the stations app or whatever to buy the electricity. There's a nontrivial number of stations in places with poor or no 3G/4G connectivity. But it's obvious that the station has internet somehow, so it can process transactions.
Then, for any locations that don't have nearby amenities, maybe a covered area, or small indoor area with vending machines? Like the ones that dispense "fresh brewed coffee" which never seems very fresh. Even if it sucks, it's something, and sometimes that's exactly what you need.
Toilets. I think this is obvious, so I'll leave it at that.
Maybe some picnic tables or benches to rest on so you're not glued to your driver's seat.
Make charging stations actual rest stops.
For the TV thing, that's not bad, but I wonder how it would work to pick a movie or something. Alternatively, you could tune it to the local over-the-air channels, then turn the TV on or off based on the presence of a vehicle in the bay.
At home, my car plugs in over the weekend once a week
On long trips, it charges at a fast charger in less time than it takes to get the children toileted and fed. You need to set an alarm on your phone to avoid getting idle fees
On long trips without kids the in car entertainment is great, but even without it you don't have much time for YouTube, especially if you need to pee
(Tesla with premium connectivity)
With your external screen idea, wouldn't you prefer one you can cast your own content to?
Or we should improve rail and bus transit. Wi-Fi on board and you can stream whatever you want. Plus no stressful, bad for the earth, driving. #fuckcars
There's a new charging technology that allows to charge 50km of range in ten minutes already being rolled out by either Renault or Stellantis. Next step will be full charge.
I like your idea but: is it necessary?
I 100% Guarantee you that EV owners spend less time charging their cars than you do getting gas. You don’t have a gas station in your garage (or destination chargers at work, shopping centers, hotels, parking garages etc) that add range to your car while you’re doing literally anything else. You also don’t start every day with a full tank. These destination chargers in parking lots etc are often FREE.
DC fast chargers are only used when you need to travel 200+ miles away. Which isn’t very often.
Example: With the amount that I drive I would need to go out of my way once per week to get gas. This would be conservatively 15 minutes to get to the gas station, pump the gas, and get back on track. With 52 weeks in a year that is about 12-13 hours spent pumping gas into my car. When I get home I plug in my EV and walk away, its fully charged by morning. I spent 0 minutes fuelling it. With occasional road trips I need to use superchargers about 10 times per year at 20 minutes each. ~3 hours vs 13. You would need to fast charge about 50 times per year to start to break even. At 200 miles of range each charge that means you would need to be driving 10,000 miles per year above your normal around-town and commute habits for this to make sense. Like needing to drive straight from NY to LA and back twice every year.
This is a terrible argument against electric cars that needs to die.
EV owners really need to stop being elitist snobs to people who may not live like them. We do not all live in affluent urban settings with free plentiful chargers, never driving any distance. This classist combative attitude never convinces anyone that an EV is better or will serve their needs.
Exists, Nio does it and is steadily expanding the network, but with how fast the 800v cars are charging it’s not really a problem anymore. I took longer breaks on roadtrips than my ev needs to charge even when I still drove a diesel.
I don’t think this really caught on because not everyone takes care of their batteries to the same degree. Frequently charging to 100% or draining to 0% has some negative impacts reducing range and performance. You’re likely to receive one of these used batteries in your car with a swap.
Imagine doing an engine swap on an ICE vehicle with a used one that never had an oil change.