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Trump holds wide leads in Iowa, South Carolina: polls

thehill.com Trump holds wide leads in Iowa, South Carolina: polls

Former President Trump holds wide leads over other 2024 GOP White House candidates in Iowa and South Carolina, according to new polling. The Fox Business polls, released Sunday, found that Trump ha…

Former President Trump holds commanding leads over potential Republican challengers in early 2024 primary states Iowa and South Carolina, according to new Fox Business polls. In Iowa, Trump garnered 46% support compared to 16% for Ron DeSantis and 11% for Tim Scott. In South Carolina, Trump received 48% support to 14% for Nikki Haley and 13% for DeSantis. The polls show Trump with wide leads despite being under investigation by the Justice Department for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. The strong polling numbers indicate Trump remains a formidable front-runner for the 2024 GOP nomination.

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Republicans are wild. A twice impeached, twice (so far!) indicted, disloyal, adulterating, serial grifter is leading the race for them. Absolutely amazing. I guess it's true what I heard. The only American Standards^tm are toilet seats. Imagine how awful you have to be as a person to vote for someone like that! So god damn weird.
- I love this!
  
  The only American Standards are toilet seats
  
  😆
  
  I heard that in a song about 25-30 years ago. I don't even remember the group, but I would like to give them credit.
  
  Meanwhile, the Japanese have much better toilets.
  
  I get a laugh every time I see "American Standard Plebe"
- People will do some wild things when someone tells them what they want to hear. As long as he keeps fighting the "elite" they'll follow in droves.
It's not really surprising. Trump supporters are cultists at this point.

But these polls are just too early to mean anything. His supporters didn't get to this place because they are immune to propaganda. If Murdoch decides to go with a different candidate, plenty of time to mold 40-50 million rural voters.
- I think this is key right here. Once election season really kicks off in January, then we'll see who the GOP and Murdoch put forward, and then see what the polls have to say. 2024 is going to be an interesting year, and I cannot wait for it to be over.
  
  Yes...I'd like to submit my vote for "the non-GOP candidate with the best chance of winning" right now, and just skip 2024 completely.
Trump's gonna be in a trial for espionage right as he's accepting the Republican nomination for president in 2024...
- He convinced his supporters a long time ago that anything against him is a hoax or witch hunt or the deep state out to get him or whatever, so they'll vote for him regardless. They don't care he'll be in trial.
- Which will mean absolutely nothing to his cultists.
  
  It's actually taken as a sign he's doing something right, because he's being """persecuted"""
So they’re all in on the criminal traitor. WTF Iowa?
- recently saw an article quoting a trumper, along the lines of "i don't care what he says, he's got my vote".
  
  that's the average conservative for you. He's their guy, they either don't fucking care or just don't fucking know. Lot of the facts are just discarded because mainstream media/fake news/libs/wokeism, whatever. They never even consider the content, the judgement is made before a single word is read or heard.
  
  Yep, they've identified their egos with him.
DeSantis is polling beneath Haley in South Carolina?

Wooooooof. So much for his regional support. You're supposed to be at least kinda a hit in the DeSouth, Mr. Muppet Made for Satan. You're making Jeb Bush look good.
- Nikki Haley is the former governor or South Carolina. She was broadly liked after her good leadership during a Hurricane that hit the state.
We need to rethink democracy
- I would say democracy is less of a problem, the problem is lack of accountability at least on constitutional level. One of the biggest thing I'd add to the constitution is a rule that mandates for every dollar we spent on the military, another dollar must be spent on education.
  
  While I appreciate the sentiment, such a law would be far too rigid to work in practice. What happens if we get into another world war? Military spending goes up by necessity, but then so does education and the military budget has a much lower ceiling than it would otherwise.
- We need to rethink our electoral system because it undermines democracy.
  
  We need to think
- Funnily enough, Trump would very much agree with you.
  
  And you'd both be wrong.
  
  Funnily enough, Trump would very much agree with you.
  
  And you’d both be wrong.
  
  Hmm, probably. But we need to rethink the details of how US democracy works.
  
  First past the post elections are as much or more a problem than the current state of gerrymandering to our overall health as a nation (IMO), and I bizarrely find myself agreeing in different measures with both supporters and detractors of the electoral college system.
  
  I don't have much in the way of solutions, but smarter folks than me should be figuring out how to fix these issues fairly (and probably already have) - so we can modernize without destroying our system.
  
  I wasn't only thinking about Trump or USA in my comment. Generally voters these day are only skin thick. They spend their vote like voting for a reality show
  
  People need to know that there is more on the line. I don't think that democracy as such is broken but people exercising it need to be educated about it

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