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They forget that in a day or two. They literally have the mental capacity of a toddler.
- Toddlers eventually learn though, and progress. Trumpy people a more like dogs: They can appear clever, but only up to a certain threshold. They may even perform useful tasks and tricks for their handlers. But ultimately they need someone to feed and supervise them otherwise they'll eat something they shouldn't and get sick. That same contented trot, and look of purpose you see on a dogs face while their owner walks them is what a republican gets when they're getting walked by fascists. Both the dog and the republican think they're part of a pack. Both the dog and the republican will be euthanized by their masters when they become too burdensome or they've outlived their usefulness.

"No one wants to work" has always had an unspoken "for the paltry wages I am offering" component to it.
- Not sure if this message is that CEOs are actually nice or nice guys are actually assholes. Both seem like cogdiss.
- Do you know why they don't like remote work? Eventually, you can remotely work for another country that pays more.
  
  They don't like remote work because it means they're wasting money on office space. Rather than fix that problem they want to fill the unnecessary space and pretend there's no problem.
  
  Or even just remotely work for other employers in the same country. For example, Dallas employers don't want compete with Silicon Valley employer salaries.
- Not even necessarily wages. Sometimes it's, "nobody wants to work with me as their boss."

The pump and dump tech bro immigrants. Fleecing America.
- So fitting as DOGE is named after a literal pump and dump shitcoin.
  
  More like a memecoin. DOGE was pretty fun until dipshit Elon hijacked it.
  
  Yes, and perfectly named because:
  Dogecoin is an inflationary cryptocurrency, which means that its supply increases over time. New coins are regularly added to the system through minting and mining. Dogecoin's inflationary system is unique because it adds a consistent 5 billion new coins each year.
  It’s both inflationary and a rug puller’s delight.

"We have a shortage of engineers!"
How do you know?
"Because they won't work for minimum wage!"
- Same way I am currently suffering under an acute shortage of Porsche Taycans.

And they do so for two reasons. The first, and most important, is because foreign labor is cheaper than domestic by far. The second, and arguably the most important for you and I, is because our education system sucks and can't pump out nearly as many well-educated folks in those particular fields at nearly the rate of countries with free, subsidized, or even just cheap education.
So the problem is twofold. The first, rent is too expensive and Americans know it. The second, school is too expensive and Americans know it. Americans also know that we can't actually fix those problems without something changing with how our political and economic systems operate, and that takes a revolution that nobody wants because they don't want to fight and die for their right to be exploited by an employer in place of an immigrant.
- Another lemmy user also pointed out the very different power dynamic between normal US workers and H1B workers (which I think is a more "saying the quiet part" than the cost to hire them being less). This is that a normal US worker losing their job (state dependent) could mean wrongful termination suits, compensation packages, and other worker benifits. H1B workers, termination means the runway to getting deported is now very short (because they are no longer working for their sponsor). Its extra leverage against the employee, meaning they can take advantage of them in ways that would make US workers take action against.
  The likes of musk and co want workers who they have more leverage over. They can ask them to do more things against regulations, ethics or their own well being, because refusal to do so means they might as well start packing.
  
  Yeah, it's less about education than it is control from what I have first hand experience in. Generally a us college grad is going to be a better employee than a H1B visa, although I'm sure there are exceptions. However, a college grad isn't beholden to an employer for their right to exist in this country. So a college grad is more likely to change jobs or push back on the employer for things like vacation time, pay, etc.
- I’m not really sure if education is the keystone issue, though. It’s a big part of the arch, for sure, but it’s well documented that economic stress and resource scarcity can take even smart people and make them drop-dead stupid. There are plenty of well educated people who have been so filled with hate and fear that they’ll believe anything and hate anyone so long as it makes them feel like they’ll have some financial security.
  Does the education of other countries include “critical thinking”, “propoganda identification”, or a mandatory “basic economics for the regular person so they can understand the concept of indirect benefit”? Do their existing courses even touch on those topics indirectly in ways that someone “who needs a little help” can learn enough to keep themselves safe? Not really, and that’s why we’re even seeing Germany basically make the same fucking mistake as before and it’s not even been 100 years yet.
- Ready to fight and die if it’s billionaires were hunting 🤚
  
  Take a guess whose side the militarized police will be on.
- Lol this is a terrible take. You cant actually be an engineer, right?

A pessimistic view of education is that it's a subsidy for business. We use our taxes to train core skills in the workforce so it's cheaper to hire and use us.
They don't offer education as enrichment, and not even education as a competitive measure... like they aren't grounded in reality and even their fantasies suck.
- I heard that from Europeans talking about US schools. Anything in school that doesn't directly help you in your job is a waste of time and money.
  MitochondriaIsThePowerHouseOfTheCell.jpg
  While in Europe education is seen as something edifying that kind of raises you to another level.
  
  I honestly think a big part of why we're more susceptible to right-wing idiocy is that we don't teach basic philosophy in high school. I'm talking basic things like how an argument is structured, deductive vs inductive logic, logical fallacies, theory of knowledge, etc.
  
  Speaking from the UK: Yes and no.
  After 14 years of Tory scum in charge, arts education in schools is on its arse, because it doesn’t provide workers to grind into a paste once they’ve left education. Indeed, most schools are struggling like fuck because funding kept getting cut while more was being required of them.
  As a whole education here is seen as a civic duty to ensure our kids are well-equipped for life in the workforce, but the scope of the education isn’t limited to just what they’d need for that, even if the central focus is.
  
  There's plenty of education-based circle jerking about superiority on both sides of the pond.
- We use our taxes to train core skills in the workforce so it's cheaper to hire and use us.
  Education that has any value beyond basic reading is college and trades, and you have to pay for that yourself peasant!
- Yes the idea that public education is free training businesses should pay for is a very transactional Trumpian outlook, and the official mentality of the Trumpublican Party.

How do we know they realized anything?
- As much as I want to enjoy posts like this one, I always ask myself this and it takes the joy out of it every time. It's just a nice fantasy that reminds me of the "Nobody in this room know I ..." meme.
  It's always "MAGAs are losing their minds over ...", but never any explanation or sourcing.
  
  Elon is apparently censoring conservatives who disagreed with him over the immigration issue.
  I don't really see much change occurring though. Most conservatives I know will continue deluding themselves.

pssst - that flag and MAGA hat were made in China lol. Go USA!!!

I love seeing economic incels whine
- You mean those who crave being fucked by the economy? :-)
  
  I mean the losers who can't get a job and blame it everyone and everything else instead of themselves

Vivek?.. Vivec... MORROWIND REFERENCE?!?
- Vivek is is a fairly common name among Indians. It means "Wisdom". Do what you will with that information.
  
  Man, his parents really got it wrong with him then. The word(s) for "selfish immoral idiot" would have been more apt as his name.
- (laughs in Dagoth Ur)
  
  What a grand and intoxicating innocence.
- Should I sleep with him
  
  No vivec is a coon, buffoon, a rat smelling baboon and cock sucking raccoon, biggest sore loser in the room.

I don't know, my girlfriend bought me a coat.

Hardly. MAGAts learning the truth a couple months ago so what's about to transpire over the next four years was something COMPLETELY different would've been the greatest gift.

THX Elon, you finally did one good thing: start rightist infighting

The real comedy is that they thought they'd get hired EVEN IF Elmo hired Americans. Vast majority of the magats barely even have a GED, let alone higher education
- They didn't think they would get hired. They just didn't want any more foreigners let in.
- Education has a known, liberal bias.

Not a meme.
- I see a comment like this every day or so. Just make your own community if you don't want to circle jerk with us until the masters cut our heads off to sell them as NFTs.
  
  Why do people argue against community names (and words in general) having meaning?
- Your MOM'S not a meme!
  
  Nice

Fascism will always exist as long as the "opposition" is also xenophobic, nationalist, etc.

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