I just wish more people were willing to try out the alternatives
I mean have they seen how good Ice Cubes and Mlem look? How can they choose the default Twitter and Reddit apps over those masterpieces.
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Yeah, a lot of people have quit Twitter over Musk being a huge douche and migrated to... Blusky. And they think they've done something really great. It's sad.
To be fair, Twitter is so bad now that Bsky is an improvement.
And Bsky has to appear trustful as they need to attract users.
That's how they all begin.
Of course, but if the most urgent priority is to get people off Twitter, then Bsky is a better alternative at the moment.
Hopefully at some point Mastodon and Keyforks will catch up on discoverability
It blows my mind that all these services announcing their leaving of X haven't spun up their own Mastodon instance.
social.transitchicago.com sounds just fine to me.
It's easier for them to join a centralized platform like Bluesky, be it for the users count alone
If you’re a company and you’re oblivious to ethical problems related to social media.
A platform with 20x the active userbase as the alternative is the obvious choice.
It's transit. Your users will go where you tell them to go.
Even better, the open APIs will allow them to build whichever portions they want into their own apps. Or they could adapt an existing, open license third party app into their own platform using 90% existing code.
Mastodon is not a twitter clone.
Bluesky is a twitter clone, without musk. That's all these people want. They've never heard about the fediverse. They're not protesting corporate centralism.
They just don't like twitter being a right wing agenda. They want a twitter experience circa before musk bought it, simply because it was left wing before.
That's bluesky. That's not mastodon.
Bluesky is...fine. Currently, it operates the way that I wish Twitter did. It lets you curate your feed, it shows the feed in chronological order, and finally and most importantly it has a critical mass of users so there is actual content there, rather than every 5th post complaining about how everyone is on another platform or not using Linux.
Really, the only issue I have with it is that it is owned by a corporation. But like Twitter and Reddit, I am willing to abandon it for something else when it gets shittier.
What are your complaints (iiuc) for Bluesky?
Not OP, but the leadership has just shown themselves to be unable to run the platform how users want. They're refusing to ban serial harasser Jesse Singal. Its head of trust and safety banned a bot and its creator because the bot pointed out that they liked a porn post on their work account for 'harassment'. Bear in mind the entire point of Bluesky is for all this info to be public and easily accessible.
To clarify, is your only complaint about the platform related to moderation?
I mean just because the info is there doesn't mean you should run with it. It's just rude
my personal dislike for it is that the claims of decentralization are countered by how expensive it is to operate in a truly decentralized manner.
To be truly decentralized you would need to run a relay server, not just a PDS which many people already do and simply holds your data. Unfortunately, the cost to run a relay server today is already about $500+ a month [1] and will only be getting more expensive.
Lastly, while the fediverse has figured out decentralized DM's, Bluesky DM's are completely centralized [1] and only work thanks to being funneled through their servers. I wouldn't call what they have private considering they can read what everyone on Bluesky is saying privately. Granted, fediverse DM's are not encrypted either, but at least they're decentralized and don't allow a single provider access to everyone's private messages.
[1] https://dustycloud.org/blog/how-decentralized-is-bluesky/
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Thank you so much for putting in effort to try and cite your claims and for providing a references section! This is a practice that I think should be much more common. PM me if you're interested in the citation style that I use.
Just saw some of your comments and really like how you're using the spoiler tag. Will try to emulate it going forward. Appreciate your feedback and style. The internet urgently needs more comments backed by evidence!
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Keep in mind that my citation style is still very much a WIP 😜. There's a few things that I'm not sure exactly the best way to handle, at the moment. If you see inconsistencies in my citation style, it's likely because I'm trying out a change in formatting to see if it works. I'm trying to not let perfect be the enemy of good, so I'm developing it as I use it. Eventually, if I can get it to a satisfactory state, I'm planning on publishing my citation style (likely in some git repo). That way, I can standardize it and version the changes.
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FYI, I've heard a couple reports [1.1][1.2] that the spoiler tag isn't rendered properly on some front ends currently. Despite that, I haven't altered my usage of it, as I don't have any viable alternative at the moment.
Just that there's nothing keeping Bluesky from enshittifying the same way Twitter (and all the other centrally-corporate-owned social media platforms) have. By migrating, the former Twitter users are just delaying the inevitable.
Just that there’s nothing keeping Bluesky from enshittifying the same way Twitter (and all the other centrally-corporate-owned social media platforms) have.
Could you elaborate on what you mean?
I'm not sure what else I can say about it. Bluesky is a shareholder-owned company started by Jack Dorsey, one of Twitter's co-founders. Current CEO of Bluesky has promised not to "enshittify" Bluesky with ads, but there's nothing really holding them to that. There's no federation, yet. Well, there is, but not the kind that makes platforms like Mastodon and Lemmy decentralized. That kind will require at best a lot of work and funding. There's no guarantee it'll happen. And no guarantee of interoperability with the Fediverse.
At any time, they could decide they've locked people in well enough that they can change all the rules and fuck over the users without any negative reparcussions to them. Just like Reddit and Facebook and every other platform that has enshittified lately. They could flood Bluesky with ads, sell your data, align politically with fascists, sell to Twitter, just straight shut down, or any number of evil things that leave their users with the choice to quit the platform and lose all their connections or grit their teeth and bear it.
On the Fediverse, if you don't like something about your instance, you can switch instances and mostly still have contact with all the same content and other people. (For instance, on Mastodon, you can switch instances and keep your followers. The first Lemmy instance I joined shut down permanently, so I switched to Lemmy.World with basically no problems whatsoever.)
I’m not sure what else I can say about it. Bluesky is a shareholder-owned company started by Jack Dorsey, one of Twitter’s co-founders.
To be fair, Bluesky is specifically registered as a public benefit corporation [1]. Whether that will mean anything positive in the end, I guess, is to be determined.
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