What is going on with Wikipedia and now a bunch of people seem to hate it? What did they do to piss people off? Did they change something?
I am a self proclaimed wiki-phile, I always donated when I could. It was kind of like going to the library without the fresh book smell.
Elon Musk and his cult followers are getting pissy with and declaring war on Wikipedia because they think it's biased against them. So basically, Wikipedia is being dragged into this right wing culture war.
It's not really a right wing culture war at this point, they're trying to destroy any source of information not controlled by the rich fascists who've seized control of the state.
CIA has their own wikipedia editors. As do most large companies & rich people. Wikipedia is not exactly neutral, but for melon it’s not biased enough.
Oh man, its 2008 again. Can't wait for them to rediscover Conservapedia and Voat.
Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
If you're seeing hate at wikipedia it is manufactured by Elon Musk.
Someone Luigi this fuck already.
Agreed, but watch out, Lemmy.World has some super shitty bootlicking mods going around deleting any comment that insinuate Musk should have anything less than a perfectly healthy long life. Thinking of switching instances because this one is failing lol.
I haven't looked back since I left. Very much recommend
Good thing we have other instances then. Maybe we need a Luigi instance
Imma not delete it
Didn't realise we were using Luigi as a verb now.
I'm on board with the vernacular.
Nothing changed at Wikipedia but FOX told me it was WOKE!
-People who Do Their Own Research!
People who are inconvenienced by facts and reality are trying to start a war against them
Which "bunch of people"? Question is way too vague to answer meaningfully, there are many people who have one reason or another to hate Wikipedia.
Elon started badmouthing them. I don’t know specifically why, but it was he.
Here you go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia
This has been escalating for like two decades.
Few article I saw, all are very basic and low quality. How's that 'escalating'?
The point is that many conservatives have hated Wikipedia for a long time, and Conservapedia is a microcosm of why, not that the alternatives are necessarily good.
Hate for Wikipedia comes from a few places.
The first and most important is that most people who have tried to edit Wikipedia have their first edit reverted, usually with good reason, because they don't understand the procedures and policies. Unfortunately these procedures and policies are what maintains high quality.
Related is news articles and blogs about edit wars and less frequently that an article or group of articles is genuinely captured by one volunteer who will protect their own little fiefdoms and not allow anyone else to edit them. This happens but it's pretty uncommon and the structure of Wikipedia means that it only really stands on fairly obscure articles.
It's also true that Wikipedia does have an inherent western liberal bias. It's subtle but it is there and results from the fact that for the majority of Wikipedia editors western liberalism is the water they swim in. Any claim that is counter to this ideology needs to be cited up the wazoo whereas claims that are confidant with it will often slide without citation. Those with a strong attachment to an alternative ideology often find it infuriating.
Finally there are individuals who would rather have the arbiter of truth be the powerful rather than a relatively democratic institution.
All that said Wikipedia is a remarkable achievement and an invaluable part of the internet.
The right has always hated Wikipedia because it's gives free knowledge. They think every page is littered with lies
Wikipedia is a massive source of free knowledge.
Conservatives do not like knowledge and have declared a war on it.
We live in an anti-intellectual society. That's why a felon rapist who illegally attempted to overturn an election is running the show and destroying our federal government, along with an unelected billionaire.
Okay, now I’m OoTL—where are you seeing a bunch of folks hating on Wikipedia?
Always pay extra attention when someone is hating on something. Typical sealioning or rotten fish social engineering tactics.
I 'hate' wikimedia foundation for one thing: they complied and gave away editors email to court and censored one page upon fraudulent lawsuit by a propaganda news channel in India. Sure if they didn't, they might get threatened to be blocked in India but I really doubt it would've hold long enough given that whole wikipedia can be downloaded fairly easily (or it is trivial to set up a mirror). They probably won't get donations though in that case :/ so probably the move is reasonable?
It is an op by the people who have recently seized power. They do NOT want the free flow of information
For a very long time now, they've been great about the more technical topics. But for a lot of the more political articles, they've been questionable. Bad sources, saying that sources say things that the sources don't actually say, leaving out important information, framing things in odd ways. Bunch of dumb drama and edit wars. Heck, even one of the founders left over it.
That, and they solicite donations without telling people where that money is going. I don't mind keeping the servers running or paying volunteers, but why did they give 5 million to "anonymous"?
Where in that article does it say that they gave 5 million to anonymous?
They received a 5 million donation from an 'anonymous' source, not donated 5 million to 'anonymous'.
God dammit, I misread it. You're right.
Wiki has been cooped by the US regime but that's gonna happen...
What you are talking about is President Musk trying to destroy it as a viable information source that at least pretends to have standards. He wants wiki to be similar to fox news.
Hold the line!
I don't doubt there are examples of volunteers reverting changes made by other volunteers. Saying it's captured is ridiculous. Wikipedia is an immense source of shared value. I'd need much more specific evidence before dismissing it, and frankly I don't expect anyone has such evidence.
There is nothing ridiculous about it, they even have specific terms for countless abuses by "senior editors", e.g. wikilawyer, content authoritharian you can look it up. Their policy was/is "Verifiability, not truth". As for evidence, there is plenty:
Citation needed
Sources?
Elon Musk
