Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ @lemmy.dbzer0.com newIdentity @sh.itjust.works 1 yr. ago

Saikou - the best Anime streaming app on Android - got DMCA'd

Even the Discord and Buymeacoffee page got taken down. This is larger than any other DMCA I know of

Edit: even the Telegram has been nuked. Yup, Telegram

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Yet another reminder that GitHub is not your friend, but also that borderline projects shouldn't be hosted on anyone else's server other than your own, you'll possess all the repository data, but you'll also be made to shut down anyway if on the clearnet, so I wonder if it's possible to host a forge through Tor/i2p or others.

Still, this is clearly wrong on who sent the DMCA, the apps never host the content, I hope they can get back up.
- Exactly GitHub is owned by Microsoft
- there are already many forges hosted through i2p, I imagine the same can be said for tor. That doesn't mean the host can't ban you there as well though.
  
  Unlike three-letter agencies I dont think the copyright holders of some anime will be able to figure out who hosts you if youre behind tor.
  
  Not that I think putting a repository behind tor would be a good idea when it comes to ease of use in submitting bug reports or contributions.
I doubt this is larger than when MegaUpload got DMCA'd.

But yes, it's pretty big.
- Yeah, I mean any Anime related app takedown
Imo this is why big projects that are borderline like this should use github alternatives, preferably self hosted solutions. This was always going to happen.
That sucks.

Though I disagree with your title, Aniyomi is the best anime streaming app on Android.
- Maybe they changed something since I used it the last time when it came out but I find the UI to be horrible.
  
  It's a Manga UI used for watching anime. I rather have a UI with beautiful animations. Saikou has one of the most beautiful UI I've ever seen in an app.
  
  While I love Tachiyomi (J2K) as a Manga reader and I think it's the best one on any platform, it's not great as a Streaming app designed as a streaming app (I know Saikou isn't just a streaming app and you can also read Mangas in it, but I rather use Tachiyomi for that)
  
  Edit: just checked it out. Nope still a Manga app UI for an anime streaming app with horrible discoverability and you can't switch between different sources easily. The sources are cool I guess, but I don't need those. You also can't add something on Anilist and automatically have it added to your "continue watching" list.
  
  Switching sources def isn't a single button thing, but it's only a few clicks using the Migrate option in the 3 dot menu, it will transfer the progress you had in the previous source and the Anilist/MAL tracking.
  
  Since I use AniChart's website directly I never missed that part being in the app, but it would be cool too.
- cloudstream!
- It absolutely is, the extensions are brilliant.
Hopefully they had backups elsewhere. This is why piracy apps need to at least try a little to not make their github so obviously a piracy app.

I hope @MonetarySqueeze@lemmy.dbzer0.com updates reiverr to use open source movies from the blender studio for the images/gifs so it can be passed off as a media app for non piracy related streaming
- It was pretty popular and had thousands of stars. It even trended on GitHub
  
  So this was pretty much unavoidable.
why is the DMCA the one area the government has apparently unlimited power and resources
- It's frequently laywers and companies appeasing them, not the government.
Just use aniyomi, it's not locked to anilist
- But I like Anilist. And the UI and features of Saikou
  
  The UI of Tachiyomi isn't made for Anime. It's a Manga app and it's great for that, but it's horrible for Anime
  
  It has anilist too, that's what I use. I had never even heard of saikou before so haven't used it but I've never had any issues with aniyomi. It's perfectly functional in finding anything I want to watch and looks good. Can't do anything about your subjective preferences though.
- Just try it. I backed it up. But you need to have an AniList account since it uses Anilist's API for a lot of features:
  
  https://1drv.ms/u/s!AqwI_W0TvdXTh_8MwtVgL24_yBzNLA
The dev of Saikou made an announcement on the Discord about this
- What the deuce is Chouten? I could not find a thing about it
Lol. Somebody reposted my post on reddit: reddit.com/r/animepiracy/comments/16v4jru/saikou_the_best_anime_streaming_app_on_android/

I don't mind at all and am kinda happy.
Any fork?
- I think all were also dmca’d
  
  https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2023/09/2023-09-20-corsearch.md
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- What is git repo federation? Why will this help?
  
  I thought git is a very decentralized technology?
  
  Permanently Deleted
  
  Git is centralized by design.
- Gitea already has that.
Question - What happens if we are hosting a Git repo ourselves, like using Gitea or something, and we receive a DMCA takedown request and we refuse? I mean, they can take down the domain, but what if weare hosting on a personal homeserver and keep changing domains whenever they take one down?
- Then it's your choice to comply, call their bluff, or do whatever you want. I've seen people who doxxed the DMCA sender and made threats towards the sending agent (the hoster was Russian).
  
  Though best course of action would be to comply or ignore it, don't do what that guy did, best to keep quiet than to stir up trouble.
  
  Outright refusal or ignoring it does come with the risk of litigation (threats can accelerate it or lead to prosecution) assuming you're within their jurisdiction.
- Legally, you cannot refuse. DMCA is written such that the host must take down first and ask questions later.
- They should upload the code on an .onion page
  
  But hiding an onion address's IP is very hard. No?
  
  Nobody would use the app then because nobody know of it and people would download viruses.
- Then they would sue you and could get you in prison or at least you have to pay a very large fine. Possibly millions.
God damnit
Can you link their telegram?
- It's gone
  
  There must be a username/t.me link which is used previously
Yet another hydra head falls... 😂
God damnit

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