It seems like the Internet always converges on these things...

Holy shit, how bad does it have to be that Facebook doesn't even make the list?!
- Or EA. So much for their sense of pride and accomplishment.

Damn, that's a low-effort meme
- Welcome to Lemmy
  
  We also have beans, and beef stroganoff
- I don't know if effort is what's holding this meme back. The premise itself is awful

No Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Spotify, or apple?
- Google seems front and center too after the recent “privacy” updates to chrome (the web browser with 2/3 the global market share).
- What did Spotify do to deserve a spot?
  
  Oh boy, a whole lot. I was compiling a list, but it turns out that Spotifys shady business practices has a whole wikipedia page. Not sure if it's included in there but Joe Rogan. Just everything about the Joe Rogan deal. As well as their ties to the military industrial complex. It's less "what have they done?" and more "what haven't they done?"
  
  Spotify is a DRM-infested despicable hellhole
  And one that platforms fash or fash-adjacent imbeciles
  
  Destroying artist's livelihoods, for one thing. Shady business practices, for the other.
- I guess Facebook is bad for it's... Well general shittiness... But they did invent react which a lot of the good parts of the internet use
  
  And llama. They're making it so that small companies can compete in the AI game

Could all be summed up in the last one: capitalism
- Well the camera one doesnt technically have to be capitalism.
  
  None of them have to.
  
  You're right, not necessarily
- Greed. Taking more than equilibrium. People focus on the apparatus but not the source. We don't need to change the system we need to change human nature.
  
  Oh shut up. If human nature is based on greed because you see people taking more than they need, then it's equally if not more based on mutual aid, since you have doubtlessly also seen people sacrifice their own desires and needs for the love of others. Why is one human nature, but not the other?
  Where is greed in open source? Where is greed in volunteer work?

All of "triple AAA" Gaming, i.e.: Activision-Blizzard, Ubisoft, Microsoft (classic), ...
- Every time I see Activision-Blizzard mentioned I feel morally obligated to remind/inform people that when Activision-Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick gave himself a $40 million bonus, there were employees who could not afford the food at the company cafeteria.
  Also, when I Googled "blizzard employees" to find that article, one search suggestion was "breast milk". If you don't feel like you hate the company enough already, look into that.
  
  Thank you. I already follow Stephanie Sterling's work. ;)

Oracle, IIRC they are/were the biggest data gatherer.
- I'm curious, why is that?
  
  Trackers, but why exactly I don't know

Can't say I understand the point you're trying to make. Are you saying these things should not be hated?

I had been starting to develop a unity game just as a hobby. RIP.
- Great time to pick up Godot, though
  
  Unfortunately they're not directly comparable though. Godot is missing a lot of tooling when it comes to 3D, especially compared with Unity.

now im scared to use anything because i know im gonna becom edependent on it and then its gonna go to shit
- The key is focus your time and effort on the ones that are really important to you, and be able to adapt to changes. This way you can make the switch to a less abusive product / platform / tool / whatever it is more easily when it inevitably goes to shit.
  This is the user-side responsibility of interoperability.

The Internet is way older than the majority of these things, but I still appreciate the spirit of your post.

Post in the comments additions to my list; I wanted to add more but I missed some.
- Windows: Bad. Linux: Good.
  Google Chrome: Bad. Firefox: Good.
  America: Bad..... America: Bad.
  
  America: Bad. Europe: Good.
  
  So you're just listing objective facts now?

You're forgetting the guy with the second biggest mug in the world.

Bring back the old Soviet Internet, before it was privatised!

Unity does not qualify as "internet thing"
- Also if they're considered on the level as all these other companies there needs to be dozens more at that table before them.

Whenever something or someone appears on the internet they have a grace period where small mistakes are forgotten and bigger ones are forgiven, but eventually the time runs out and everybody will hate you.

Pretty much any mainstream social media imo

Wouldn't x be coverd meca7se musk is there. Almost like it's just milk twice
- They are both scourges without each other
- They put as much effort into their meme as you did into editing ;)
  
  Holy shit. I don't recall having any speed this morning. I can't even figure out what that mess was supposed to be

2023 still not done, plenty of room for more shit companies and situations to unfold!

Got so many ad blockers about the only time I see ads is when I accidentally look at a billboard

E💩
- Electronic shit? Wtf

Ah yes, the paypal mafia. Most of it explains that pic. Techno feudalists trying to take over capitalism with capitalism 2.0: even thinking a thought will be charged edition

- Me when Chinese propaganda is being showed to me: 😡
  Me when American propaganda is being showed to me: 🥰
  
  I mean, the post includes the US.. Senate, I think that is? No idea, I'm not american and the americanization of Lemmy is bothering me
- They both belong on there if you ask me.

The advertising-thing always baffles me. Are you willing to pay for each and every service you just use completely for free? If not, you shouldn't see advertising as a "scourge".
- I don't have much of an issue with advertising in itself
  However
  Online advertising nowadays is extremely obnoxious and annoying, and serves to track you, too. Add the fact that ads are free real estate for malicious actors to do whatever, and I think you can agree that they are a bigger problem than they should be.
  I genuinely wouldn't mind ads if they were unobtrusive and not tracking me, but that's not the reality.
  
  Don't forget about malvertising, that's probably a more imminent danger. If Google and other ad companies don't give enough of a shit about user to actually filter out malware ads, why should I give enough of a shit about their revenue to not use uBO?
- I have an issue with advertising. I would rather have an internet with much less services and pages. We all say how much we don't need social media right. So tear it all down. Remove and create a hostile net to advertising and marketing. Steer it back towards hobbyists and open source nerds making GeoCities pages. What do we lose?
  Will I miss out on marketing interns at Marvel trying to force another viral meme using one of their 300 sock puppet accounts.
  Am I going to miss out on my data being harvested and giving to anyone trying to sell me starlamps they bulk purchased off ali-baba.
  The crux of all the problems we all have with the internet is advertising products. It's what introduced all the data harvesting. It's why we have so much censorship. Its why all webpages and content is all the same because they all try to capture the last successful creator that sold ad space. Its why the internet is just one big data harvesting billboard that is now spilling over into the real world. So fucking kill it all. Reject marketing and advertising and lets get back to what the internet should have always been. The internet needs to be Snake Plissken'd
- Yes
- No lmao that's why I pirate
- A better question is how you're so comfortable with every place you look containing ads

The amount of times capitalism gets dragged into a thread that has nothing to do with economics or politics is, quite frankly, astounding.
edit: I get it, you are all replying the same thing. Point taken, capitalism has its hands in everything. My point: we don't have to circlejerk about it every 3 seconds. I would rather not delete this comment, but why isn't there a block notifications button on Lemmy?
- It's almost like the economic mode of production touches and influences everything in our lives
  
  You tankies have thick skulls. No one here is saying capitalism is good. That's beside the point
- The number of people who still don't understand that absolutely everything is politics and economics is, quite frankly, astounding.
  
  We understand, we just don't want to talk about it all the fuckin time
- LOL, you think the enshittification of the Internet has nothing to do with economics or politics?! I'm almost morbidly curious about what exactly you think it does have to do with, then!
  
  I'll forgive you for strawmanning my position because I haven't fully articulated it. Of course capitalism is connected to every area of our everyday lives.
  But, unpopular opinion incoming, people go out of their way to bring up capitalism in every thread and it gets old fast. You could have a thread on !AskLemmy about how hard it is to be a dog-walker, and there will be comments saying how OP wouldn't need to be a dog walker if it weren't for capitalism! Whether you think that's true or not is beside the point; this corner of the internet is always beating the dead horse called "capitalism bad".
- Capitalism is a function of everything that happens in a capitalist society
- Basically everything around you is not there by happenstance but because of hundreds of years a very specific economic arrangement of society. You would be hard pressed to find anything touched by humans in the last 200 years that doesn’t have capitalist contradictions embedded into it
- Eh, I agree with the general point and would like a better system but can we talk about other things ffs. The general atmosphere on here is so negative.
- Counterpoint: using the word "circlejerk" to disparage points we'd rather ignore is a really annoying thing to do.
- When someone complains about capitalism or neoliberalism with something that doesn’t involve it, I always like to ask them to tell me the definition of the word without googling it.
  
  Do internet strangers really play along with that? I would expect a very unproductive semantic argument.