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Ascend910 @lemmy.ml

Amazing, every word of what you just said was wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsMfNKcd298

"I actually prefer Windows over Linux as a foundational system—I just don't like the Microsoft BS put on top of it. I think Windows is simply an easier and more straightforward system.

Trying to get non-tech-savvy users to go through a long, complex install process? Come on. A lot of people on the internet forget that when most users get home, they just want to pay some bills, watch some YouTube, play a game, or do something simple and then get off the computer. They don't want to sit there dealing with a bunch of complex setup steps."

Amazing every word of what you just said was wrong

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  • So he votes for Linux, where 90% of mainstream distros installers are literally

    • Choose disk
    • How much software? (Optional)
    • Username
    • Password

    • Hey now! You gotta at least set your timezone and keyboard layout, too.

      • Which for me is just pressing enter.

        I remember the old joke when Ubuntu was the hot new thing: If you put grain around the enter key, a chicken can install it.

        Nowadays it's true for every graphical installer. Hell, even NixOS can be installed by pressing enter (though good luck doing anything else after boot if you're a basic user).

  • These are facts you will not like.

    • for a number of years I worked with a group producing and maintaining the AT&T Unix primary distribution.
    • the people in the organization worked on the Unix kernel, deeply cloistered and talented.
    • these people, one of them easily the smartest I've ever known, unilaterally used windows.

    Let's look at that, though, as we move from fact to memories and opinions. What I recall is the standard dev kit at the time was VanDyk SSH. That's all they needed, but they used Mozilla as their mail and web client. They also needed a music player because of course -- even if that was extra.

    Windows provided all of those, and WinAMP, and it did two things reliably that Unix at the time didn't: it booted well and it ran music smoothly. It provided a voice-chat client and ran that smoothly as well. The various chat apps of the time, which were probably three but felt like a dozen, also ran well.

    In short, the crappy windows default platform didn't ask for tweaking and gave the user an SSH client on demand. When highly-paid people don't need to futz with modelines, the company doesn't lose money it didn't need to.

    I tell you that to tell you this. Linux has grown up from the modeline days, but no distro is free of bizarre junk shoved in by some wunderkinder with more power than reviewers and pushed by a vendor hoping to create the next big thing -- without stopping to ask whether it should, whether it's useful for us. Machines boot a little more slowly and a little less reliably, and there is a non-zero risk that a very valuable dev's machine will NOT be available when required. Windows has jammed their own shit into the OS - just privacy risk after ad spooge, on and on - but the thing it does well (when it's not patching) is boot well and allow us to start Putty and WinAMP and Seamonkey.

    And I'm not sure whether a reliable start into something with a bunch of ad spooge is better or not.

    I SHOULD MENTION that I'm moving my geriatric mom, and others, to linux later this year. She's ready, even if I don't relish supporting her from 9 hours' travel away.

    And I love how the gif included was correct and almost perfect English, but every time it's quoted there's a different writing error.

  • I think Windows is simply an easier and more straightforward system.

    For example, list the processes on a windows system. Nobody has the faintest idea what half of them are. Do the same on Linux and there's maybe 10 you'll have to look up. Windows is a mess of interconnected and piled upon crud. Unix may not be perfect but at least it makes sense.

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