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More Democrats want a more moderate party, poll says.

www.thecentersquare.com More Democrats want a more moderate party, poll says

(The Center Square) – Data from a new Gallup survey suggests that close to half of Democrats want their party to move more toward the middle, while more than 40%

Data from a new Gallup survey suggests that close to half of Democrats want their party to move more toward the middle, while more than 40% of Republicans are happy with their party.

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1d ago

More Democrats want a more moderate party, poll says.

www.thecentersquare.com /national/article_e21c040a-eaf8-11ef-bd5e-ab73e5ab64c4.html

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1d ago

More Democrats want a more moderate party, poll says.

www.thecentersquare.com /national/article_e21c040a-eaf8-11ef-bd5e-ab73e5ab64c4.html

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Being more moderate would mean moving leftward.
- ...only on Lemmy lol.
  In the real world America the left has gone so far left they have lost their own moderates and now they call those people righty centrists.
  Every time I try to tell y'all that the average American finds your stances way too left you guys double down and insist that you actually need to go more left.
  
  If you look at the issues people support, like universal health care, a living wage, meals for kids, yes, the average American does support moving left.
  The problem is the media pushing the lies that a corporate centrist Democratic party is already too far left when that isn't the case.
  
  That's actually not completely true. If you present the Bernie Sanders stuff to about 80% of American voters, without identifying the source, they go wild with approval, and they tell you that's the whole thing they've been saying this whole time.
  There's a little bit of an issue that the average American is roughly on par with Nixon politics-compass-wise, but mostly the issue is that they've been so addled by poisonous corporate media that they don't know up from down, and they think the Republicans are the party of small government and honor, and the Democrats are the party of transgender-queer-ism and corporate corruption.
  So you're right in terms of what political parties they support, but not in terms of what political stances they support. The one has just been divorced from the other by careful engineering. And then also, yes, some Nixon things like "immigrants are all dangerous rapists and the left is letting them do it" and other such things, they have absorbed.

I dunno. Honestly there are things which seem to have mass appeal but the biden administration got a lot of that done when it was tough and his VP lost so I have no idea what people want. Would I rather have had universal healthcare than no surprise billing, yes, do I want trump instead who likely may actually tople obamacare. no.

It's a two-party system. If they move toward the middle, the whole thing shifts right. It's very precisely adapted to mitigate any kind of meaningful, moderate, centrist position. If, instead, we're talking about comparing the US system to that of other countries, the idea that the Democrats are leftists is hilariously misinformed.

It's a pet peeve of mine when reporters phrase things like this. I assume this means that < 50% of democrats want to move toward the middle and that >50% of Republicans are unhappy with their party (and thus want it to move somewhere?). If that's the case then wouldn't it imply that republicans are actually more unhappy with their party's position than democrats are? Or it would if the things they were discussing were comparable. Wanting to move right probably isn't the same stat as 'happy with their party'
Less than of 7 in 8 democrats reported liking facts, while more than 20% of republicans love them!

Well that would be stupid to continue that migration; so I am sure that's what they will choose to do.

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