It’s all posturing

I’ll tell you a secret you might have missed.

It’s not about the privacy.

It’s about a foreign country of similar power levels having the ability to shape your people’s political opinions.

They’re shitting themselves because it’s one of the first times it’s happened to them instead of them doing it to someone else.

new user freshly connected to internet, would you rather:

-waste your precious time and attention on hypercapitalist hellscape headquartered in usa, or

-waste your precious time and attention on hypercapitalist hellscape headquartered in china

The key difference is that American Government agencies don't have access to the information TikTok steals from its users.

Edit: This comment implied the US has easy access to the data from companies like Facebook.

America is guilty of everything Americans accuse China about.

Americans when Canadians say they'd prefer TikTok spying vs an American company:

but seriously. I want no one to have my data, but if someone HAD to have it, I would prefer TikTok over anything from Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc..

My country wont export me to China if I post something negative or pirate something. My country will export me to the US if they come banging on my door. I am quite literally safer letting China have a bit of my data.

True but also true: you are comparing multinational corporations to the Chinese government, who is currently waging cold war against Western states. That's the quiet part they're taking care not to say loud, hence posturing.

Has everyone forgotten when Zuck was brought before congress and grilled about Facebook? True, the reps merely embarrassed themselves through their own ignorance, but being ineffectual is not the same as hypocracy.

Both are bad.

Can't we just say that both are bad?

It's like picking on a younger sibling.

It's okay when you, the older sibling, do it. But when a stranger does it, you kick their ass.

I remember articles in the early 00s about how China wouldn't allow Google to operate there and a big deal was made about "the great firewall of China" and how it was all about censorship, but now that China has an influential internet service, US congress is demanding they hand over ownership of US operations to a US company.

Xenophobia (from Ancient Greek ξένος (xénos) 'strange, foreign, alien', and φόβος (phóbos) 'fear') is the fear or dislike of anything which is perceived as being foreign or strange.

Hypocrisy at its finest.

So many people here who don't understand why people are able to criticize more than one country be like:

A: "Tell me the difference between these pictures:" || xor

B: "They are the same"

its almost like foreign governments collecting information about your population is a bad thing for your people and your government, or something.

Now do American politicians when an elementary school is attacked by a gunman.

@Veedems If our freedom we wanna keep. Facebook, Microsoft, BP, Nestlé, and Google we have to kill.

Do other people who defend China even use or like TikTok? I sure don't, I have never used TikTok as an argument for China.

Privacy rights are only a suggestion nowadays. It's pretty sad.

To be fair, they haven't exactly stepped in where the activities of Chinese applications are concerned. They just keep threatening to do so.

Same here with india

Stay for the anime, cum for the hentai.

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i'd rather be spied on by an allied country, or my own, than a somewhat hostile country.

American politicians don't need social media to invade peoples privacy. The patriot act sealed the deal a while ago. If they want to spy, they're going to.

I should also add that the whole tik tok ban is just a way to toss in extra laws that give the America government more control. They say it's about tik tok, but it's a scapegoat to get people to vote for invasive laws.

God I was hoping the Tankys wouldn't run here full speed after reddit shut down, but looks like that ship already sailed.