"Maybe Ukrainians shouldn't keep dying in this war when the west has no intention of accepting them into NATO"
"This proxy war is a great return on investment because we don't have to care for any of the Ukrainian veterans. Got a blown off leg? Slava Ukraini and get back in the front line, patriot!"
Anyway, something about Soviets and Russians throwing waves of soldiers and elderly people to get slaughtered to win an inch or something
Like yeah if you spend decades scaring yourself with ghost stories I guess the result seems impressive for spending over a hundred billion dollars. This is like the bear patrol episode of the simpsons.
"They also have the ability to sever Europe's need for Russian energy"
How's that working out so far?
The VA comment is . Omg literally just mask off "it's not our boys dying"
It's fascinating to see these people come to something of an understanding, albeit superficial, of some of the most obvious realist motives and calculations behind the US's essential involvement in Ukraine as if they were stumbling onto a revelation, which should have been not only obvious before it even began (the US's foreign policy in this regard hasn't changed in 30 years) but should have made obvious how incomparably dangerous the US is, only for them to then say: "actually this is smart and good, I love paying top $$$ to impoverish Slavs and Chinese people".
It never stops being hilarious watching all these suburban masturbators roleplay as either oil excecs or the command staff of the pentagon
100% these minivan driving dipshits have suffered a financial loss from inflation and they still talk like they have a career stake in the warmaking of the state
To say nothing of the psychopathic disregard of the lives of millions of Ukrainians
I can already tell the second comment is an America worshipper from somewhere in Europe salivating at being a slave to the US. He would probably let the US nuke his own home and cry that they didn't obliterate everything.
I always picture these types of people to be like that X-men character, toad. A sniveling little gremlin that looks up at its master with sad, pleading eyes with hope that it too will be seen as an equal. Only for the US to kick them off a helicopter when they're no longer useful.
Copy paste State Dept talking points. I swear I've seen this same exchange over and over on
The whole "yeah, but..." damned the torpedoes Cold War Tom Clancy fever dream shit that brings nothing good for anyone but Cold War fanatc's bruised egos that mainland Russia hasn't balkanized for their stink tank vulture's masters.
"A bunch of disaffected abandoned right wing soldiers we trained and funded and who hate us almost as much as the enemy we pointed them at has never caused us any issues down the line"
Pretty sure the least costly way to cripple your foe while hardly lifting a finger is to grab your popcorn and watch as they try to occupy The Graveyard of Empires for 20 years.
I've basically ignored Lemmy. I've spent a grand total of less than ~4 minutes here. Over time I just came to ~4 threads, I sorted by "top", and I felt like I was at Reddit so I immediately left. Today was no exception...
If Ukraine does not win, WW3 is the inevitable outcome in the next 10 years.
first two paragraphs are objectively correct analysis from the point of view of the yankkkee ruling class. third paragraph reveals that they're enough of a dipshit to identify with the yankkkee ruling class lol
"The More Russians we kill, the safer Taiwan becomes" is far too mainstream for a take that is patently batshit insane sounding. it's even a little surprising that people can just copy+paste that take with no further elaboration and not think "wait, what the fuck am I talking about?"
This just seems like some saps trying to identify with their rulers, bargaining away their impotence for agency.
It's been on repeat for me, but the thought of If Russia defeated, I can be happy and America can be a true democracy is just liberal cope for living in a country where political agency is denied and alienation the norm. Now the cope is contributing to the continuation of this war, fight to the last Ukrainian, will somehow achieve that, that all that human sacrifice is a good thing because the evil that has been externalized can now be banished for good this time, even if the Nazis need to be rehabilitated.
Why did you remove the rest of the post from the screenshot?
If I could wave a magic wand and end all wars and give the entire planet universal healthcare, I would.
All I pointed out was that 1/3 of the estimated $8 trillion total cost of the US wars post-9/11 will be dedicated to veteran healthcare; whereas funding another country's war doesn't come with those costs.
It's not a hot take. It's not a position. You're projecting.