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Locking this thread. It's fine to have political discussions here but if you haven't commented in 1 or 2 years then show up arguing politics immediately after a Canadian election is called... it is extremely suspicious.

- And which domestic mess are you referring to?
- This sort of thinking got Trump elected. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. If my only real options are stubbing my toe and shooting myself in the foot, I know what I'm picking. We can complain about the black toenail after the gun is put away.
- pp would suck trump's dick if elected
  
  Would? Like he hasn't been already?
- Most individuals place blame at the federal level but rarely check to see which party is operating at their provincial level.

I'll start off by saying that Pierre is one of the most embarrassingly worthless candidates that Canadians have ever been offered, but Carney is a Goldman-Sachs banker who has never once been elected to any position he has occupied. He has been appointed to central banks by two conservative governments from two different states.
Both of them are wolves in sheep's clothing. Neither would choose Canadians over profits for them and their financial backers. Fuck them both.
- Oh look, the "both sides are bad" crowd has moved north.
  Elections are damage control time. It's too late to change the options for the leadership of the various political parties, so you pick the least bad option. After that, you start pushing for change, and get the party to nominate candidates that more closely align with your beliefs in time for the next election.
  In the current election, the NDP are showing absolutely no signs of life, so the least worst option is Carney.
  
  Have you asked yourself why CSIS is making announcements about how China, India, Pakistan, and Russia might be interfering in the upcoming election, but failing to mention that most of our print and broadcast media is owned by a US conglomerate (Postmedia) and virtually all of our social media is owned by US tech companies like Meta and Alphabet?
  Does it not seem strange to you that the entire media apparatus immediately aligned behind this guy that most Canadians didn't even recognize three months ago, and started champing at the bit for pipelines coast to coast, increased military spending, deregulation of trade, and increased private investment?
  The mentality you're expressing here is exactly why Canadians are in such a precarious position in the first place. Most are struggling to afford groceries and rent, precisely because of the deregulation and privatization that ghouls like Carney champion. What use are tax breaks on new housing builds when over half of Canadians are living paycheque to paycheque?
  Stop thinking that picking the lesser evil is somehow the smarter or braver choice. It's not. Look at how liberal capitulation worked in response to the last time there were fascists sieg heiling and threatening to annex their neighbors. Look at how worthless and ineffective the democrat opposition is in the face of an open coup d'etat.
  If you want a preview of Canada under Carney look no farther than Starmer's Labour in the UK. It's infinite tax breaks and incentives for the rich, and bleak austerity for everyone else. Only here we have MAID, already one of the top ten leading causes of death for Canadians, to encourage the people most vulnerable to these cuts to consider.
  Unions for dockworkers, railworkers, postal workers, nurses, educators, government employees, and more have all had strikes broken by the liberal fed over the past three or so years. We are in a polycrisis and the notion that more of the same is somehow the fix is completely irrational.
  I am by no means an NDP supporter, but I would urge you to read their platform and ask yourself why almost no one is even aware of it. What sort of future should Canadians be aiming for, one of austerity, militarism, and privatization or one where the government invests in prosperity for the working class and their wellbeing?
- Carney did great as a finance boffin for Canada and the UK. Carney helped Canada during the 2008 economic blow up. Pierre has done nothing to help anyone other than himself.
  
  Carney's handling of the 2008 financial crisis is no small part of why Canadians are in more debt than ever before while struggling to afford basic things like food and housing today. The short term preservation of liquidity in the face of collapse allowed investors and the richest Canadians to leverage their assets against existing inequality, snatching up as much as they could afford to, and then extract increasing profits from those investments over time. Now landlords are engaging in open collusion to drive up rents using the figleaf of services like Realpage, with regulators asleep at the wheel. Liberals find evidence of grocery giants price gouging almost every single Canadian and dole out a slap on the wrist and a fine that pales in comparison to the profit of their actions. Business as usual.