Hormones Rule
Hormones Rule
(Not taking Hormones yet actually, I want to but I also don't want to grow boobs)
Hormones Rule
(Not taking Hormones yet actually, I want to but I also don't want to grow boobs)
"Big pharma claims they are 5G blockers."
there are HRT combinations for being softer and less hairy but not growing boobs if that's what you like
Yeah I found out from another commenter here, I'm now doing research into them.
I hope you don't mind me asking, and I don't want to cause any upset with my ignorance, but what is it that you're looking for from hormones? Feel free to ignore the question if you don't like it or can't be bothered with it.
Hormones do the heavy lifting of a medical gender transition. They change the fundamental machinery of your biology at a cellular level. The difference between the sexes is a lot less than most people realize, and the vast majority of differences are due to hormones, not genetics. Really all the Y chromosome does is tell the proto-ovaries to develop into testes. From there, male/female differentiation is all hormonal.
Changing your hormones changes so much. It's honestly incredible how much they can do.
https://www.gendergp.com/hrt-timelines-hormones-effects/
They change muscle structure, fat distribution, skin texture and thickness. Testosterone causes trans men's voices to deepen and trans women to grow breasts. Estrogen gives you hips and curves. But it even changes things like where your body stores fat. A middle age trans woman will store some fat on her arms, just like cis women. Hormones change your sense of smell and your own body odor. The list goes on and on.
This is why I always push hard against the language that trans women are "biologically male." Because it simply isn't true. Hormones change cellular expression from one sex's form to the other. They even change how your body metabolizes medications. This is actually a big problem in treatment of trans people for non-transition related things. Some medications need to be dosed differently for men and women. An ignorant but well meaning doctor might say, "well, trans women are biologically male, so I'll give this trans woman a male dose." And they could kill her by doing that.
HRT doesn't change some things. It can affect the size and shape of the skeleton if taken early enough. But even among adults, slight skeletal changes due occur over a long enough period of time. HRT won't change the macrostructure of entire organs. It won't change a penis to a vulva or vice versa. And while testosterone will cause facial hair growth in trans men, estrogen won't reverse facial hair that has already grown in for trans women.
The truth is that the vast majority of the population is a hormone prescription and maybe a bit of voice training/facial hair removal from passing as the opposite sex. The differences between male and female are a lot less than most people would like to believe. Ultimately, humans are not angler fish. We have a very low level of sexual dimorphism as a species. This low level of sexual dimorphism is what makes gender transition possible. Have some sympathy for the trans angler fish.
Thank you, that's very informative indeed.
I want to have a more feminine body and appearance. There are many other changes too. I'm largely okay with most of them, just not growing breasts, I don't really want that. Which is why I'm researching methods and combinations that reduce breast growth but still have all the other changes.
Thanks, it's very understanding of you to be so open. Only keep answering if you're happy to, but I'm wondering if the breast growth thing just a personal preference or are there external factors, like is it about how other people see you?
It makes the user look and feel more "feminine", if I understand correctly. Different kinds of hair growth, smoother skin, this sort of stuff. Depending on the age you start it changes the way your face and body develops, as well
Thanks.
Curious to see what kind of answers you get. I haven't ever considered becoming trans, and don't feel like I have identified in anyway other than a guy, but I've heard research shows testosterone blockers slow or can stop male pattern baldness from occuring/progressing. Being that out society has shifted from being extremely have to be fit all the time, I wonder if there are people who prefer to have their hair from youth and want to try it.
There’s Finasteride which is used for this. It inhibits DHT specifically and not testosterone.
Testosterone blockers like Spironolactone would be problematic longterm because having low levels of both testosterone and estrogen comes with health risks like osteoporosis. And you can still get feminising effects like breast growth even if you don’t take estrogen. And it seems like most men would like to avoid that.
It does work though. Trans women on hormone replacement therapy usually don’t get male pattern baldness. I’ve had a bit before I started HRT and some of my hair has even grown back (that’s not guaranteed though).
They need to work on those 5G towers, they don't affect me TwT
Brb gotta go take down the Faraday cage I've been sleeping in so the towers can feminize me :3
Could I tune the 5g frequency just enough to get my ass a little fatter and my chest just barely large enough to fill out my dresses? I don't need dramatic changes, just a lil help.
You have to submit a ticket
You can take whatever and if you keep your calories low (17 BMI let’s say) nothing too big will grow. Human body is easily malleable with the right chemicals intake and exercise
Then in my view it’s better to have small tits you can enlarge through implants with a skinny waist and muscle butt.
It’s not too easy but food addiction is more controllable than video games addiction in my view. I forget about food most of the time while gaming is like ‚just one more turn’
Also lordosis remember the secret ingredient to successful only fans
17 BMI is like dangerously low lol, and would go beyond my already dangerous enough diet of 70% of my BMR. I'll agree that it's better to have a big butt, but I dunno if I wanna go that extreme for it!
~~At 5'8" a BMI of 17 has you at 90 pounds. Being "accustomed" to being dangerously thin just means you're ignoring the warnign signs that your body is eating itself alive. ~~
Ok that's on me for trusting random charts in a duck duck go search.
oh I wish sooooooooooo much to be prtti <3
If you don't want boobs, you could take raloxifene alongside estradiol to get feminization without much or any breast growth.
I didn't even know that was a thing. In the past I've been told I should just embrace boobs and that there is no way. Time to do some research on that see if maybe it's something I could do.
Sorry for the book...
This is anecdotal and varies highly by person, but I'll drop my experience here since raloxifene reports are still few and far between (and I was recently searching far and wide for them). Ralox was relatively effective for me but not perfect, but I do owe the initiation of my hrt journey to it. Overall I would say that it isn't a long term solution, but it can be a useful tool in determining what is right for you.
As a non-binary transfem person, I initially went on Ralox along with E (and Spiro) about 1.5 years ago. R blocked (or at least slowed) the majority of my boob growth for basically the whole year I was on it, paired with E doses of under about 6mg taken orally (or only 2mg E taken sublingually due to higher metabolized peaks). E doses higher than that tended to overpower Ralox and I would notice chest sensitivity within a few days, guiding me to lower my E. (Fwiw I did this 'experimentation' with my doctor's approval and under their care).
Within those ranges, my chest had minor growth but it was largely due to general fat redistribution (for note I am a fairly avg body type/weight), I would say that I stayed within the Tanner stage 1 or beginnings of stage 2. This would be the sweet spot (for me) to avoid any real breast growth. My ass however, got thicc pretty fast - which was honestly amazing to watch grow lol.
Eventually I really started to love being on E, and my brain and body wanted more of it lol. I began on 6mg E taken sublingually, and rather quickly saw some boob growth (bumping me into tanner 3), but they... sorta grew on me? Before long I dropped ralox entirely and am now leaning fully into E 😅.
All in all I am happy that I started off with Raloxifene + E, primarily because it gave me the comfort I needed to start E at all. Once on E for a while, it really rewired my brain and made me realize my hold-up on having breasts was largely due to social fears of transition. It's still scary and hard sometimes, but I'm so much more self-confident just through the biochemical benefits that the E therapy has provided. I still don't want large breasts by any means, but it's no longer a big concern of mine in the big picture of my transition.
Sorry again for hijacking this thread, I just felt compelled to share in hopes that it may assist in someone's journey!
Is there anything that does the opposite?
By opposite, I'm assuming you mean breast growth with no other feminizing changes? That I am not sure about how to achieve. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking that one could maybe go on a T blocker and/or estradiol for a while, and then stop. The breasts should still persist despite stopping, although they may shrink somewhat. Aside from that there is also breast augmentation surgery.
I have to take off my tinfoil to be pretty?
I don't think the tinfoil was doing anything to begin with.
im jus gonna... hide dis post, it meks me sad ;(