You can stop asking where the mass opposition is. It's everywhere.

Everywhere except the past... where we fucking needed it.
- Most people do not care about (and do not want to care about) anything under the broad topic of "politics".
  If you try to force them to care, they will punish you. That's what we're seeing, but it's also why it's so damn hard to stir people to action before things go wrong.
  
  I could not agree more

I just watched a video from one f the big networks. They had originally done a story about the protest in Boston talking about 10,000-30,000 strong, despite organizers estimating much higher. This video revised attendance in Boston to 100,000

“There be no shelter here, the frontline is everywhere.” - Rage Against the Machine

First there was the Arab Spring.
Then the Balkan Spring.
So this is... the American Spring? Sounds like a brand of bottled water.

Now all of these people converge on Mar-a-Lago and burn it to the ground. Preferably with Trump and Musk inside.
- This is refreshing to see after using reddit so long.
  
  Calls to violence you mean?
  You want a circlejerk with no barriers, whereas I wish we could discuss the reasons why hes putting in tariffs and cutting spending. Project 2025 versus ETS2 for instance, or the fact China is buying fewer and fewer treasuries every year; leading to higher borrowing costs on leveraged economies globally as money is sucked into the US, to fund the spending they also cant afford.
  Even the global demographics look bleak given the amount of debt we've taken on, and people are still living in an MMT fantasyland as they roll over their mortgages from 2% to 6%.
- All for a change of regime, but nothing worth building has been built on violence.
  
  I never thought about it, but, by George, i think you're right! It always blows me away that the Nazis just up and released all the people they'd put into camps. That was truly swell of them.
  
  LOL
  You are a dream of an opponent
  
  Well everything? Nothing has been given freely.
- But you'll burn all the children he has locked up inside. Best to shoot them in the head and steal everything.

Great!... now take this momentum and do a general strike! a week should do it
- That's not really how a general strike works. You can't just post on the internet "do a general strike" and expect it to happen or be effective. Where are the strike funds to help feed people and pay their rent when they stop getting paychecks? Where are your strike captains to organize demonstration events? Where is your army of strike lawyers to defend people when they inevitably get arrested?
  General strikes take a long time and a lot of resources to plan. Only then can one be effective.
  
  it's strike to prevent sliding into fascism, not a parade

Now you have the numbers go physically remove the shit head and all his lackies, cause he's not going to go willingly.

It's really sad how domesticated the American people have become.
Any of these 1000+ protests could have used their manpower in one day to remove everyone close to Trump.
Instead we will keep marching and holding signs while everything gets worse and our corporate leaders tell us to wave the signs higher...
- How the hell are you suggesting that a single group of 10,000 to 100,000 people can "use their manpower in one day to remove everyone close to Trump"?? Are you saying that the January insurrections were a good idea? The tough part you're not considering is that to preserve (what's left) of democracy we need to continue abiding by its principles as frustrating as it might sound. We need democracy intact after this is all over. One could almost infer that your comment seeks to invite violence.
- I'm not sure you understand how protests work.
  
  So once you garner massive support do nothing meaningful to change things, that's the right way to protest the government according to the government.
  This is what I mean by domesticated
- If we removed him by force with only something like 1.5% of the population on board, we'd have kicked off a civil war we could not win. Right now, it's more important to use protest as an outreach tool to get more of the population to support change.
  
  Slave mentality
  
  The Irish did pretty well against such odds.
  
  Well the civil war wouldn't be 98.5% vs 1.5%. I reckon it would be fairly even, maybe even a bit more on the anti-Trump side, despite the fact that some people might not agree with violence. If forced to pick sides, I reckon most will stay on the same side of the political spectrum they're already on.
  However
  I agree that civil war should be avoided. But at the same time I recognize some amount of violence may be required in the end, to have a true "liberation day" for Americans. Trump's not stepping down as long as he's alive and free.

I really don't like the amount of violence being suggested here. Trump needs to be removed but a lot of you are suggesting to support violent fantasies.
By the way that's a very strong tactic be terrifically Republicans to make the left look unhinged. And they're correct. It will turn a lot of people against you. Most are not violent people.
- The point of making the 'left', or any opponent, look unhinged is to pressure them into submission. The reason why this works very well is because your media is complicit in amplifying any wrongdoings by any opponents and twisting the perception.
  i mean, check out protests in Europe and how they're framed by their media. Even your Vietnam war protests back in the day; your media started banging on about them being drug users and layabouts to make dismissing their cause much easier.
  I just think Americans have lost a lot of people power if you have to protest while walking on eggshells. Best thing to combat it is to have a conversation with everyone. Get people chatting face to face rather than having the TV spout nonsense at them.
  
  There's one of the worst ways in modern times to get any message across. It's like suggesting we use carrier pigeons to communicate on a battlefield.
  The Internet exists. Hey did the Republicans protest in the streets to get their message across?
  I didn't see that yet every single person I know could reiterate almost all their talking points. If protests were stuff an effective medium for creating supporting and spreading a cause, how did they accomplish it without it.
  Republicans hired think tanks. Same way the cigarette company did you delay laws. Same way energy companies did to delay and sew distrust on climate change.
  The left for all the geniuses they say they are have not adapted to the modern world. Imagine if every single person at these protests stayed home instead and shit posted on every platform they could. That's how you get messages out in modern times. You use the algorithms. You create content. You boost signals.
  What you do not do is drag people into the streets banging pots. It's not the 1960s
  Everyone is online. You need people burying their signals and amplifying our own. You need memes. You need everyone to force their hand. The fucked up thing is they have such entrenched culture that you'd think it's obvious where to apply pressure. It's not calling them a Nazi. It's culture jamming our society so we associate trucks with femininity. They are more sensitive than ever and it should be easy to find their soft spots. Can't hit it from the middle of the road
- Same here. The peaceful inclusive protest in Sackets Harbor, NY over the weekend worked. The immigrant children and their mother are being returned from Texas as I type this. Don’t give Trumpy any room to paint the left as unhinged.

Selective destruction of establishments is next guys, keep it up!

Their demands seem to be as feeble they might as well not exist. So the mass protests might not exist as well. Hands off bla bla lol, might as well send a sternly written letter haha. "Oh please sir, could you possibly be less rough with me?!"
I heard that the USA has been involved in illegal regime change in other countries 62 times. Sixty two times! Overthrowing quite a few democracies too. But for the US this seems unthinkable still, even for mother jones. A simple demand like the Trump administration to step down and call for new elections seems to be nowhere to be found.
PATHETIC ATTEMPT AT REVOLUTION!
- This is exactly how every single popular uprising in history has started: by overwhelming numbers of people getting out in the streets to have their voices heard. They always start off as peaceful until drive past that by elite/institutional reaction.
  If this were a single instance, then, yes, it would seem feeble and ineffectual. But it's not. It's the early days of a large movement. We're less than 3 months into the regime and this past Saturday was already the single largest day of protest in American history. And there's another one scheduled in 2 weeks on the 19th.
  I was at the protest in DC. There was 100k+ people there. I've been a political activist since the protests against the Iraq War in 2003. This event on Saturday was notably different than any other I've attended in 2 ways. One was the sheer size, larger than any other protest in DC I've seen. The other was the demographic composition of the crowd. All previous protests I've been to were primarily filled with male-presenting young people. This was very different. At 38 years old, I was definitely younger than the majority of the people there. It was also far more racially diverse than any other events I've been to except for the 2020 uprising.
  What do you expect a giant crowd of people mostly in their 40s-60s to do? You think they were all going to storm the White House or Capital?
  For that matter, what are you doing? You say these demonstrations are pathetic? Then surely you must be taking more radical actions that have a much higher chance of effecting change. I'd love to join in, so, please, tell me what you're doing that's puts the 5 million people out in the streets on Saturday to shame?
  
  I was in DC on Saturday too, and I also have been going since W Bush's first inauguration, and several anti war protests after that. I always enjoy seeing people out on the street, but I also feel like these protests don't really accomplish anything as such. They are just really easy to ignore, unfortunately. Participants feel good about themselves, and hopefully build relationships with new people. But did that crowd on Saturday threaten anyone? Did any elected officials (R or D) feel nervous about it? Were there any demands made that will be met? Again, I do appreciate so many people taking the time to protest, but I hope that plenty of them have a line at which they will take stronger action, and that it doesn't come too late.
- Very good, take large potato from bin.
- As it stands now leadership change in the US does not include the possibility of calling elections.
  If Trump steps down, Vance takes over. If Vance also steps down, it's Mike Johnson, then Chuck Grassley, Marco Rubio, and so on.
  https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession
  For that to change, Congress would have to establish a new presidential succession process, which they could do. However, they won't.
- Lol what is this pathetic attention seeking behavior?
  Did you get the attention you wanted bby?

He was waiting for this, now he can institute martial law! Dick tator for life.

Fuck yes, finally!
- Finally what? Finally the media is covering the protests that have been going on the entire time? They're growing but they weren't small even a month or two ago.
  
  The media are complicit with Drumpf. After all, they created him. But now the owners have lost some money, they're jumping aboard. Never forget that the mainstream media are your enemy!
  
  Why are you so hostile? Calm down.
  This is the first time I’m seeing any major movement outside of when Vance visited Vermont on any socials and media I follow.
  
  Fox News and the other propaganda channels are giving absurd amounts of coverage to liars. NBC just had on the secretary of the treasury where he was pitched softball questions. Without blinking this soulless minion claimed a crash is good for americans. But even a complete donkey would be skeptical of the claim that a massive economic contraction would be good for everyone.
  This moron was talking out of both his blow holes about how the tariffs and economic collapse would lead to lower prices. Anyone who couldn't spot the obvious contradictions (these people are contradicting themselves in the same paragraph) is beyond all hope.
  
  And what is being protested?

this just shows how Americans only care for themself. take 15% stock loss then they go out. but when they let 100k children die in agony, crickets.
- These events started pretty much the moment Trump took office. This was the second national day of protest since inauguration, and smaller events have been happening all over the country weekly. This event was not motivated by the stock market.
- These were scheduled for a long time, they weren't like randomly thrown together in a single day lol
- There have been many protests even before the stock market issues. Even before Trump was elected there were protests across the nation at college campuses representing Palestinians. Even my very politically inactive university had enough students feel strongly enough to protest. Just because you’re not seeing them, or looking for them, doesn’t mean protests weren’t happening.
- These were planned several weeks back, and would have happened no matter what happened to the stock market.

Now all they have to do this until main stream media cannot widely ignore this in the US.
- I know it's easy to criticize the media, but, like, they have been reporting on it.
  MSNBC
  CNN
  USA Today
  Washington Post
  New York Times
- If they can ignore genocide, they can ignore protests. Just like they always do.
- These are the precursors to a general strike. There's are a lot of great people out here building support networks for when it finally happens.
  Please come get involved!
- It's been a couple of decades since I've lived in the states, but I used to watch some US TV, via satellite and later cable (TV through fiber, actually) I stopped watching US TV 2-3 years prior to COVID. I just can't stand it. Regular TV is pretty bad worldwide, but US TV is on another level of bad.
- Their mansions are in gated communities with security keeping out the "undesirables". Remember "I really don't care, do you" is the truth about them.
- It'll be right before the false flag attack used to justify repression of dissent
  
  That being America, it would not surprise me.
  
  Why not gather the masses outside their mansions? Why do people keep gathering at the most calculatedly ineffectual areas where they're ignored time and time again?
- Stop watching that trash. The US has awesome media outlets that have been widely covering US protests.
  
  Meidastouch
  
  For heavens sake, I'm not a regular watcher of US mainstream "media". There is only so much junk a human can stand. I was just observing the coverage of this particular event out of curiosity what they would do about it.

Wonderful, dear US friends!
A powerful sign against all the hatred and corruption that Trump and his henchmen stand for.
I think large demonstrations like this are incredibly important, especially nowadays, because the manipulation in social media and the traditional media can so easily give the false impression that a majority would share the inhumane ideology of this regime.
For the tens of thousands on the streets, it is obvious how many decent people there actually are.
Trump and his opinion makers can do little about this - apart from their usual ridiculous conspiracy theories around Soros and other such Bogus. Because not even these unscrupulous fascists can (yet) dare to stop thousands and thousands of people from demonstrating, or even have them all arrested.
Good luck and all the best from Europe!
- Thank you; finally someone from Europe that sees Americans are struggling to fight. Over there you're unlikely to see the whole picture about what's going on. I understand that Europeans are mad and I don't blame them, but I wish more Europeans understood that division is exactly what the powers want and your media is likely being manipulated as well, albeit to perhaps a much lesser degree, in order to sow that division.
- It is not tens of thousands.
  D.C alone has an estimated 100.000 people marching.
  Nationwide the number is believed to be 5 million, i read somewhere.
  
  Yes, all the better
- In our city there's been a march since Friday. Can't find any non local news reporting on it.
  
  Yes, it's scandalous, but that's why the people on the street are so important, because sooner or later you can no longer overlook them as they are a fact of life in the real world - and then it becomes clear how one-sided the media coverage is.

So is Trump and his entire admin stepping down then?
- You do understand mass movements don't affect change in 48 hours, generally. Not from start to finish.
  
  I hope the US is building towards a general strike against Trump et al
- But hopefully soon
- 5+ million in attendance. A whopping 1.5% of the population.
  
  In Seattle it was closer to 3.3%, which is kind of insane.

These protests need to start happening outside of these reps' offices.
- And federal buildings in democratic areas… unfortunately status quo democrats aren’t going to be the champions of this - they will just use it to fund raise more
- Reps need to be taking part in the protests. Preferably Korean-style.
  
  There were multiple US House Representatives as the protest in DC on Saturday. Several spoke on the stage and others were out in the crowd.
  
  You mean the US representatives that won't set term limits? The US representatives that won't vote to outlaw insider trading? The US representatives who own businesses that benefit from their legislation? Those people? Just gotta be clear here. Because I'm feeling a little uncertain about their loyalties at the moment. At least towards their voters... To their donors, I'm rock solid on where they owe their fealty.
  
  God that photo goes hard on so many levels
- I saw someone call for protesting on golf courses, might be even better.
- *houses
  They just don’t go to their offices or close them or ban protests.

I'm so happy to see this, finally some good news from the us.

Good to see more young people.

Let’s keep this momentum going fam!

Why all these marches in areas that these oligarchs don't care about? Why not their mansions?
- Because if protesters ever pose any actual threat, they'll be viciously attacked.
  (I'm talking about progressive protestors. Cops and fash go hand in hand.)
  
  So we should continue wasting time, effort, and energy to NOT pose as any threat? So what's the point?
- because America is big, like really big. Its not like EU countries where you can just hop on a train and get to the capital in a day. for someone in South Dakota its at least a three day commitment to travel and protest in DC, and encase you didn't notice most people in this country can't afford that.
  
  Am south dakotan, can confirm
- The U.S. is pretty much as big as Europe.
  It's not easy to drive thousands of kilometers to get to their mansions. These marches happened all over the place, in major cities and capital cities.
  
  People drove from all across the country to go to Washington yesterday, organizers supplied coaches from every major city. Same with BLM, Occupy, and many movements before it. But god forbid we do that towards a location that could actually make a difference.
  EDIT -
- Whose mansions are you talking about? Just protesting at some random Sociopathic Oligarch's palace isn't going to do anything, they'll never even see it. These people configure their lives so they never have to be touched by real life. They'll just spend the day on their yacht or at a different palace. If they are in town, they'll just chopper in/out at the residence, which will be behind walls and gates a quarter mile away.
  Nope, flood the streets in every major city, disrupt everything, block Federal buildings, be as inconvenient as possible. That's far more effective.
  If you want to piss off a Sociopathic Oligarch, then protest at their place of business. Block their entrances, interrupt the flow of business, make it difficult to do business, inconvenience their employees, irritate their neighbors, embarrass them to their neighbors, etc.
  
  If you want to piss off a Sociopathic Oligarch, then protest at their place of business. Block their entrances, interrupt the flow of business, make it difficult to do business, inconvenience their employees, irritate their neighbors, embarrass them to their neighbors, etc.
  So how does gathering outside the White House or town halls move us towards this goal?
- Millions of people protesting isn't good enough for you?
  
  Voting would be better lmao
- I think most of these protests were properly permitted (I know my local one was). Protestors in residential areas would likely get arrested for stuff like disturbing the peace, even if they stayed on public property such as roads. They'd probably try to charge the organizers for something too, which is probably why they aren't being organized. But, I agree there should be protests at these people's homes regardless.
  
  I feel off about this. Permits. Like ok, you are given permission by the powers that be that as long as it’s in a specific area and don’t cause a disturbance… why would a protest want to play by these rules? Isn’t the point to cause a disturbance? Wouldn’t getting a permit be a direct message that the protest has no chance at obtaining actual change?
  
  Then why aren't you being downvoted to oblivion?
- Which, specifically? They all have several.
- The people going to events want political action to fix the problem and prevent it from occuring again. Not pointless Lynchings for petty revenge.
  Now if we could organize in a way that encourages conservatives to switch sides then that would be cool, like a tour through conservative counties.

LMFAO 5 million white old ass, non ethnically/racially diverse boomers protesting against their 401ks losing value doing a cosplay competition 🤣
That's the opposition? Rich white old men?
- I personally saw thousands of young and middle aged folk at my local protests including POC, in higher concentration than old people. not sure what you're talking about but it isn't representative
- That's a tiny part of it but mostly it's the disrespect for the world, a move towards economic isolationism and the dismantling of a once great superpower. All of these things break a society.
  You seem happy about the boomer generation suffering and find it funny do you? That is the wacky internet for you. Maybe you are just being engineered by the algorithms and you have no choice? who knows anymore?
  One for all and all for one, regardless of what generational group you fall under.
  
  The function of accounts like the one you are replying to is to encourage cynicism and inaction among otherwise anti-fascist people.
  Failing that, they will try to exhaust you with “debate”.

I don't think we'll see the upheaval of a fascist regime by picketers carrying signs any time soon.
- Obeying in advance, yikes fucking pathetic.
  
  There's no actual disobedience in going to a protest. It's completely permitted and allowed as long as the protesters don't actually do anything. It's a means of directing discontent into a dead end.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk
- No but it's the first step. As momentum builds more people are emboldened to protest, and the scope of the protests widen and get more effective.
  This sort of statement is typically made by people who want to stall and prevent action. You see it all the time in various forums: "if this activity doesn't 100% fix everything immediately then there is no point in doing anything".
  Unfortunately we don't live in a black and white world where a switch can be flipped from awful to wonderful (as if it was even possible for everyone to agree on that). You get there in small incremental steps with messy interactions and disagreements along the way.
  Protests like this can lead to ongoing effective resistance like strikes, work to rules and etc. But you don't get someone to go from never having protested in their lives to manning a blockade of a govt building in one step.
  
  Exactly. For the past month I've read many people here saying protest are useless because of various bullshit reasons. Protest are just a starting point. At protest, people talk, organize, that can lead to more massive protest, a new ideology, a revolution, or nothing. You never know.
  I'm French. I have been to many protests. Some ended in massive movement for no reasons. Some died while the cause was very important. You never know.
- This is to show the people who are feeling alone with their despair, that they are in fact not alone.
  And it is to recruit people for the upcoming general strike.
  For a general strike to take effect, it needs about 10mil people, and it is estimated that there are about 5mil people demonstrating in America today.
- you speak truth and they downvote it because they don't want to face that fact that one day of standing around accomplishes nothing. they want to think this will be easy and won't require real sacrifice. they're lazy and naive.
  please bookmark this post. show me what changes one month from now. one year from now. please prove me wrong.
  
  because they don't want to face that fact that one day of standing around accomplishes nothing.
  Well it's a good thing it hasn't been just one day, and there are many more planned for the future. Come get involved!
  
  If you can't even bother to stand around to protest, how tf are you supposed to get people to do more extreme actions when the time such drastic actions are required comes around? Your apathetic response to protesting will only lead to a more fractured society that cannot attempt any meaningful resistance to the fascist in the white house.
  
  they want to think this will be easy and won't require real sacrifice. they're lazy and naive.
  That's not at all what the responses (that have been up for hours before you posted this) have been saying.

it's everywhere
And they are doing what that is useful? The amount of people in any of these pictures could easily enter the White House and unseat Trump, yet here we they are, performativelizing.
- And they are doing what that is useful?
  Protesting, making their voices heard. Showing the world that not all Americans are fascists.
  The amount of people in any of these pictures could easily enter the White House and unseat Trump
  You clearly don't have any idea how overzealous the security in and around the white house is.
  Even IF they somehow got to the oval office after suffering hundreds if not thousands of casualties, the Mango Mussolini would have long since been whisked into a bunker and secret service and the military would arrest or kill all of them.
  yet here we they are, performativelizing
  The first person part was correct, the plural wasn't. What's performative is your insistence that the obviously impossible is easy.
  
  Would it even get that far? Gathering that many people in one spot, at the same time, with a coherent plan would take... a lot of communication. And we know for a fact that the spooks are listening in.
  But, hell, @veniasilente@lemm.ee, start organizing people. I'm interested in seeing how far it gets.
  
  Honestly though. I thought it would take hundreds of casualties to get into the capital building. And really, is trump actually in the white house much? Golf ain't going to play itself. But these protests build up the confidence of people who want to do more. It makes them feel like the people are behind them. So maybe these are warm ups for taking the white house.
- You want the people to "Maga hat" riot the white house? You think that's the plan?
  Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
- Classic astroturfing right here. "let's bitch about people getting involved but not yet murdering people!" cut this shit out. And get involved!
  
  Doesn't look like that. I skimmed the profile very briefly, and it looks like a bad take on an otherwise active and normal account.
  
  Also classic astroturfing is complaining about astroturfing. Fact is you never know who posts a comment. But mostly, I agree with your sentiment here.
- It’s performative.
  It’s the same reason sports games have hype crews in the form of bands or a cheer squad. It livens the audience up.
  In politics it also sends a message to their reps that they could/should be a little bit more aggressive in promoting what their people are saying.
- Attack the head of the snake and chances are you'll get bit. He'll be in a chopper before a window gets broken and the National Guard will be there in minutes.
  The GOP are getting cold feet, Musk is close to leaving, and Trump is starting to throw his appointees under the bus. Sorry you probably won't get to see Trump tied up and crowd surfed into a van to never be seen again but this is the process.
  
  "Gaddafi!" Sorry, it just popped into my head when I read "crowd surfed ".
  
  Sorry you probably won’t get to see Trump tied up and crowd surfed into a van to never be seen again but this is the process.
  Sure, whatever process that works works. My point is I'm not seeing a process - I'm no seeing progress. Just complaining, which is something the elites can already and have always burrowed their heads in the sand at.
- I do agree that the resistance needs to become more radical, but you don't just enter the seat of power and unseat the democratically elected president. Like it or not he still has a popular mandate and that needs to be destroyed first; that's ultimately what civic resistance is all about. Also he has armed security, which can just shoot any intruders in part because of said popular mandate.
  
  What popular mandate? The guy won the same amount of votes as last time. Stop with this mandate shit, it's bullcrap.
  
  Like it or not he still has a popular mandate and that needs to be destroyed first;
  Okay, then how? Because from what I have seen pretty much every official in a position of civil service just resigns to let Trump do as he pleases, so there's not much of a resistance. Who in civil service is supposed to unseat Trump? DOGE is certainly not gonna do it.

It'd be nice if all of these protesters had bothered to vote and not with protest votes.
- It would be nice if there had been non-fascist duopoly candidates to vote for. But here we are.
  
  Let's not forget that there are more than two choices. I understand there is certainly a duopoly, but that only continues as long as we continue voting for only one or the other.
- "proper action wasn't taken in the past therfore I won't accept any action being taken in the future."
- What makes you think they didn't?
  75 million people voted for Harris. We likely won't know the count of today's protests, but I feel safe saying it was far fewer than 75 million.
  
  The estimate was 5 million people across 1300 cities.
  A lot of people complaining about these protests seem to think that level of coordinated protesting isn't impressive.
  Those numbers alone should make anyone stop and think about what's going on.
- I think these people are the ones to have voted.
- Oh look, another liberal blaming eveybody and anybody except the traish-tier Democrat platform/candidate.
  
  Hey if they had 4 more years they sure would have at least thought about punishing the insurrections.
- More astroturfing
- In the US system it doesn't matter how you vote except in like 7 states.
  
  Well, that wouldn't be true if everyone voted, but it does bring up the point that winner take all is just a bad representative system.