As if giving birth wasn't enough of an ordeal by itself, there are people who will judge you for not giving birth painfully enough
The comfort of having a c-section? Does anyone really believe that. Well, at least anyone capable of having a baby. What a tone-deaf turd.
Most people think they just make a little cut and a baby comes out. They have no clue of the absolute horrorshow a c-section entails.
You guys are taking an incredibly uncharitable perspective here.
He isn’t glorifying pain or demeaning C-sections; he’s expressing pride in his daughter for making a difficult, personal choice to go through a natural birth. He’s acknowledging the strength it took to face that process, not implying that other paths are lesser.
Not everything has to be filtered through the lens of outrage. Let people celebrate personal courage without assuming it’s a critique of everyone else.
I know there are a lot of people who look down on c sections or epidurals but without context this quote doesn't really come off like that to me. C-section vs vag delivery is really more of an issue for the woman if elective or the health of the baby/mom if emergent. Either way, it's between mom and doctor, no one else's concern.
I mean, "in a world where everyone chooses comfort my kid chose a natural birth" absolutely is looking down on women who opt for C-sections. He's Indian, we're very judgy about this sort of thing
Gotcha, I can see that. Your last sentence reminds me of a doctor i used to work with. Her parents were from India and when she would say something critical of herself or someone else she would generally do it in her mom's accent. A lot of people probably judge themselves in their parents' voices but don't notice because they have the same accent as their parents.
Are there people that opts for a c-section as a first option without a medical condition?
I have never heard someone choosing the c-section as their first choice. It is usually when there is no other choices.
Meh. If he said he was proud of his wife for running a marathon despite the pain, it wouldn't be an issue. Same thing. As long as it was her choice, he can be proud of it.
It’s his daughter, but why be proud of someone for choosing unnecessary pain? If he were proud of her choosing natural birth because of the health benefits it imparts on the child fine, but it’s like saying I’m proud of you for running a marathon with a broken ankle. He’s not proud of the act, he’s proud of her suffering.
It all depends on, if natural birth has positive effects on the newborn. If it has, your pov is wrong. If not, you are right. And since we don't know for sure, nobody has the right to look down upon others opinions.
Everything is "us against them" nowadays. Whey can't we accept that other people might come to different conclusions?
If I recall correctly there were studies regarding newborn exposition to their first microbiome. It was found that through natural birth the infants were basically automaticallz inoculated with their mother's microbiome, while those delivered through c section didn't (found the study! https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5648605/)
However it was hypothesized that this inoculation could be done manually via swapping the inner walls of the birth canal / vaginal walls and then expose the newborn mouth to those swaps.
Long story short - although there are some benefits to a natural birth, in the end the health of mother and child are most important. One part of the mental health of the mother can be the fear of the pain of birth. It's her and her physicians decision and although as partners the men by their side should be there for her, they don't get a say in how the circumstances he participated inducing will end (same goes for lesbian / diverse partners although they might not have taken a biological part in the start of the pregnancy).
Her body, her agency. Everything else should be coordinated beforehand as goes for every emergencies
Natural birth does have positive affects on the baby; microbiome exposure, squeezing the baby during pelvic contractions helps clear out fluids from the lungs, pelvic contractions kick-start lactation.
It's also better for the mother, in terms of recovery time. Cesarean leads to permanent reductions in abdominal strength.
That said, give people information and options and let them do what they want.