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WTF is a rural town in the USA?

As a non-American, I'm very confused by this. If it's a town, it's not rural by definition. Because, you-know, it's urban.

Also, could we get a definition of town vs small town. Do you not have the concept of a village? (Village in the UK would be a settlement with a population of a couple of thousand, with usually a pub, local shop, maybe a post office and primary school if you're lucky).

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  • As a non-American, I’m very confused by this. If it’s a town, it’s not rural by definition. Because, you-know, it’s urban.

    A rural town is a very small town or populated area within a large rural area. The US is a huge country, with very large swaths of rural areas throughout, especially west of the Mississippi. In these large rural areas are scattered small towns of various sizes (say, less than a hundred to less than a thousand or so people), with long stretches of unpopulated (or very sparsely populated) areas between them. That's why they're called rural towns--no one would call them "urban" by any stretch of the imagination. They may have the things you mentioned (a post office and bar/pub/eatery) but not much more. But even if you're technically in a town, you are still effectively rural, since you're nowhere near a significant population center with anything like hospitals/doctors, shopping, services, etc., and a car is required to reach them (no public transit and much too far to walk or bike). Look at online maps to get the idea.

    As for the word "village", that's mostly used in the NE part of the country and tends to have a bit more specific definition. Elsewhere, most of us would just say "town".

  • All these fancy answers and I'll give you a real simple one: sidewalks and paved roads. Does it have fully paved roads and sidewalks? Urban. Does it have that and mostly houses? Suburban. Some/no sidewalks and the roads aren't all paved or is done poorly? Small town/rural. It's all about the concrete/asphalt to dirt ratio.

  • A lot of this is going to be subjective and depend on your personal frame of reference, as well as local laws and customs that can vary a lot around the country

    In general, in normal casual conversation, most Americans are going to refer to a municipality as a "town" unless they're in a big city. Legally, that municipality might be considered a city, town, township, borough, home rule municipality, village, etc. but unless it's a big city we're probably going to refer to it as a town most of the time

    There's also, in some areas, unincorporated communities that don't have an actual municipal government, but if there's a relatively dense area, we might go ahead and refer to that area as a town.

    Some parts of the US do have some sort of legal definition for "village," in others it might be used informally to refer to a small "quaint" town, or part of the town.

    There's also the distinction of, for example, being "in a town" vs "in town" or "downtown"

    Most of us who don't live in a big city would say that we live in a town, meaning the municipality we live in. Somewhat less of us live "in town" meaning something more like the denser, more "urban" parts of town, probably resembling what you think of as a village, and "downtown" would refer to something like the area around the main street or main commercial area where you might find stores, restaurants, bars, etc.

    So a "rural town" is basically any sort of town in a rural area. I'm not sure if there's any sort of a legal definition for a rural town, but in general I'd say that if a town is surrounded by woods and/or farmland and you can't trace an unbroken path of suburban sprawl from it back to a major city it's rural.

    Some of those rural towns can actually be fairly big and urbanized, but they're otherwise in a rural area in their own little bubble so we'd still consider it to be a rural town.

    As far as town vs "small town" that's kind of subjective.

    The town I grew up in is often referred to as a small town, largely because it's physically pretty small, almost exactly 1 square mile, but that 1 mile is pretty densely populated, I think the population is around 9-10k people currently, it's just a couple miles outside of the nearest major city, and pretty well-urbanized itself, connected to several major highways, was once a big manufacturing town but is now pretty gentrified, with a solid handful of 10+ floor office buildings. People from more rural areas probably wouldn't agree that it's a "small town" but people from a bit city probably would think so, and for those of us "townies" whose families have lived here for a few generations still feel like it has a small town feel, even if the newer transplants don't all share that feeling.

    The town I currently live in isn't quite rural, but it's getting there. I'm towards the edge of the suburbs now, maybe even into the exurbs. The town is physically much larger, but only has about half the population. That small, less dense population makes it still feel kind of small-towny.

    Also worth noting, my town doesn't really have any sort of a "downtown" area, no real main street to go walking around or anything. We have a few businesses and stores and such roughly clustered in the same area, but it's not a cohesive thing that feels like a "town" or what you might recognize as a "village." I would normally may this, but if I said I was going "into town" for something, most people around me would probably understand that I'm going to one of our neighboring towns that are a bit more built-up

    So some combination of physical size, population, population density, and a curtain je ne sais quoi are what makes a town a small town.

  • so by way of examples, going to some extremes...

    Kent County, Texas is one of the most rural counties in the US. with Jayton hosting its county court house. As of the 2020 census, the entire county has less than one thousand people. The terms small town/town are somewhat nebulous, But usually in really rural places it’s someplace with a few shops and maybe a neighborhood and school and stuff.

    This is a sat photo of Jayton, compliments of google maps:

    Jayton has about 500 people.

    Note, that the mile is about 1.25 miles/ 2 km's north to south and about the same in east west. (at least, as far the structures/housing goes.) to get an idea of what it looks like there, here's the streetview in front of the court house.

    zooming out to kent county, there's like 5 towns in that entire square, note the distance marker down at the bottom being about 8 km:

    now, compare that to new york city:

    Note, the distance marker at the bottom being about 3 km.

    zooming in to roughly the same scale as the photo on jayton.... randomly....

    and here's a few courthouses in brooklyn....

    and the king's county courthouse on streetview

  • There are named towns in the US with populations in the single digits. This can be due to either the population moving away, fleeing, or simply dying off over time -- Centralia, PA leaps to mind -- or because it's just a cluster of a couple of houses at a crossroads that would otherwise be in the middle of nowhere. There may not necessarily be a post office or any other services there.

    In fact, there are "towns" in the US in that they are named on the map and have a defined location filed with the state/county/Postal Service, but they have no inhabitants at all. In many cases this is because a planned development never actually happened.

    • See also: census designated places, a collection of people with no formal town incorporation/government. My dad grew up in a "town" (CDP) of about 250 residents. It's about a half hour drive from the nearest real town, for things like groceries and hospitals.

      • Another possibly related wrinkle here is that I an given to understand (I am by no means an expert) that there is not a single square inch of dirt anywhere within the United States that is not considered by the Postal Service to fall within the boundaries of a ZIP code. Regardless of the population level of that location (even if any), any mailbox staked into the ground anywhere will have an associated ZIP code which will inherit the name of some city/town/borough/whatever by default. This is regardless of how many miles are between that location and the city in question, or how much it makes sense.

        Everywhere in the country is somewhere, even if it's the middle of nowhere, according to the post office.

        For added giggles, here is one of my oft-reposted pictures, which happens to be more-or-less in the, er, "city center" of Tartown, PA which is on the MABDR route in the saddle of a random mountain in the middle of the woods near the Southern border of Pennsylvania.

        Tartown is an abandoned "unincorporated community" within the ZIP code 17320, which ostensibly covers Fairfield in Adams County, PA. "Community" is a strong word. There is in fact no such place as Tartown, except there is. Information on it is sparse, and it contains no development, no remaining buildings, no utilities, no government, and no population. However it is a named point on a map that has a defined location and presumably will forevermore, as long as the records are kept. Thus it is a town.

        ...For a suitably small quantity of "town."

    • Centralia is small because the mine fire has been burning since the 50s or so. It's basically condemned.

  • Colloquially, it just means a small municipality. A "rural town" is a small municipality that is not near a larger metro area.

    Town has a specific meaning in some states. I'm from Ohio. There is no such legal meaning here. Any municipality over 5k residents is a city. Anything other than that is a village. I am from a city with a population of about 6k. Outside of the city limits is farmland. I would say I'm from a small town/rural area.

  • Caveat: none of these are formal definitions. This is what I am thinking of when using or hearing these terms.

    I wouldn't call it an "urban" area unless I can see a privately-owned 4+ story building with an elevator. Government buildings don't count: they might be the sole example of a 4+ story building within 50 miles. Partial elevator access (intended for handicap compliance to the lower floors) doesn't count.

    "Suburban" extends from the limits of the urban area, out to where the farms or forests are larger than 100 acres. Suburban areas are primarily comprised of single family homes, but you may also find 1-3 floor apartment complexes.

    "Rural" is anywhere outside of both urban and suburban areas.

    A commercial or mixed commercial/residential area - that isn't large or congested enough to be considered an "urban" area on its own - would be a "town". A "rural town" would be a town not connected to a suburban or urban area: you can't get to a city without passing large farms or forests.

    A town won't have its own police force. They will rely on the county sheriff's department for law enforcement activity. Once it is large enough to have its own police, it becomes a "city".

    In my area, a "village" is a town populated exclusively by people with twice the median income.

  • I've lived in 20 different cities/towns/villages across five States, and I can tell you that no one really knows how to define these things accurately, at least in common parlance.

    Tappahannock VA is absolutely what I'd consider to be a rural town, but when compared to a place like Waterboro ME, it feels positively metropolitan.

    I think, in general, a "rural town" is usually understood to be a relatively small, centralized area of mixed-use zoning in typically agricultural regions; a population under 10,000 with a few main streets with things like general stores, a few diners or restaurants, a grocery market, and single-family homes. These places almost always grow around farmland.

    A "village" might be something more along the lines of Pleasantville NY or Cornish ME. They don't rely on agriculture and have centralized social dynamics.

    There's also, wildly, a difference between "rural towns" and "small towns." Golden CO is not a rural town, even though it shares many of the characteristics of one. It's a "small town."

    That being said, people from New York City will often refer to Boston as a "town" so I guess a lot of this is relative.

  • On paper sure they are villages, but I think a US village and one from elsewhere would likely feel drastically different. Lacking actual community (see Bowling Alone), or just look at all of the things that the village lost (shops, train station, industry etc) and what it still has(franchise dollar store, gas station etc).

    It could just be coincidence, though "retirement village" is a term (also ecovillages) so maybe not. Aside from decay, I'd imagine the common perspective of blink-and-you'll-miss-it (unless you stop for gas/maybe breakfast) probably doesn't help with image either.

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