1mo ago

Pointed out on Facebook that not telling Ukrainian civilians that the trucks they're delivering contain swarms of kamikaze drones is kind of a war crime

And a bunch of bloodthirsty libs jumped down my throat for daring to speak against Ukraine and their noble practices of not notifying people that they're going to be doing a false flag operation and also Russia also did war crimes so international law is therefore null and void

And the weirdest part is that nobody seemed to catch that the thing that most upset me was random innocent truck drivers being the ones put at risk in this scheme and nobody even wondering about what would have happened to them if they got stopped and searched by Russian soldiers and labeled as "terrorists" for just taking a delivery job

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: Ukraine is so smart, using civilians to smuggle weapons and drones!
: HOW DARE RUSSIA TARGET CIVILIANS?!?@?
- That's the whole reason why both are war crimes. Using civilians and civilian infrastructure for military use justifies seeing them as targets, which is wrong because targeting non-combatants is morally reprehensible.
  
  justifies seeing them as targets
  Yeah people forget, there's no higher power enforcing laws around wars. Only the victor will get to decide what gets punished. The purpose of war crimes is for nations at war with each other have an agreement not to do certain things or use certain weapons.
  Once you start committing war crimes, there won't be police knocking on your door to arrest you or a fine sent to you in the mail. The response will come from the other side who have justification to do the exact same shit you just did. You start using civilians as cover? They're going to blow them up. You start blowing up civilians? Their civilians are just going to start attacking your troops. You carpet bomb cities? They will carpet bomb cities. You use chemical weapons? They will use chemical weapons. Etc. Etc.
  There is no benefit for the Ukrainians to do this. They are in a losing position already. What's going to happen is Russia will respond with crimes of their own and then they will prosecute Ukrainians for the crimes they committed once Russia has won. There won't be any consequences for Russia itself. The UN won't have a case to build if the Ukrainians did something first. Even if they did, Russia can ignore it the way the US does.
and also Russia also did war crimes so international law is therefore null and void
I think this war has shown beyond any doubt that if social media had existed in WW2, literally every defence of Ukraine today would've been used to defend the actions of the nazis.
Both Ukraine and Russia have been using this tactic to a significant degree. Russia does this with civilians delivering packages inside of Ukraine, Russia often targets things like city infrastructure, police stations, energy infrastructure, etc. Russia also has used commercial international couriers for mailbombs. A number of these in Ukraine have been delivered by teenagers who were killed in the blasts. Both countries intelligence agencies are fishing on Telegram promising $600 to $1000 American for either delivery services, or outright assembly depending on target/ tactics.
Arguing about this is pointless because this is why war is bad.
- police stations
  the denazification is real
- Won't anyone think of the cops
  
  Won't anyone think of the Tu-95?
  I'm not arguing about the targets, I'm arguing about the civilians that were carrying bombs and were killed carrying those bombs unknowingly, some of whom were children.
- The gigification of war logistics
Had a dream that kiev got blown up and i think it was the best dream i've had in years
- Eh
  No good take ever follows this sound
  Welcome to the jungle
  I know you feel really badass saying this right now, but it's this flippancy you'll want to keep in mind when the next totally avoidable escalation arrives for liberals to support/complain about/support while complaining about.
- In case you didn't notice, the era of rules-based international affairs has irrevocably changed.
  Never really existed in the way that it claimed to, anyway.
- The rules based order have always been only applicable to the enemies of the West. The West, as usual can do whatever shit they want and get away with it, including genocide.

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