TIL that the judge in the Carroll rape case clarified that Trump did rape Jean Carroll
TIL that the judge in the Carroll rape case clarified that Trump did rape Jean Carroll
What the jury found Donald Trump did to E. Jean Carroll was in fact rape, as commonly understood, even if it didn't fit New York law's narrow definition, says Judge Lewis A. Kaplan.
All the news headlines and verdict said sexual abuse, which was kind of vague, but I just found out today that the judge clarified that this was a matter of legal definition and by the verdict of the trial and the case, trump has been found guilty of penetrative rape.
"Found guilty" is inaccurate, since he was not charged with it as a crime. Rather, it was a finding of fact in a civil case. The standards of evidence are different, and a criminal prosecution would still have to prove the charge to a higher standard. But for purposes of civil liability, yeah, he did it.
I thought about that, but since guilty isn't only a legal term and commonly implies responsibility for wrongdoing in general and the judge is clarifying trump is responsible for raping carroll regardless of the legal term used, naming his guilt is appropriate and perfectly accurate.
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The very fact that she said she could not tell if he used a finger or his penis kinda proves shes not lying... if she was set out to make money off him by lying Im pretty sure part of that lie would be "yeah his penus was def inside me bro"
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Which is ridiculous because it's rape whichever he used.
Forceable sexual assault? Yes.
Rape? No.
Fondling? Yes.
This using Clery Act standards which colleges use. PDF Warning.
Otherwise it varies heavily state by state.
Few more explanatory quotes - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/07/donald-trump-rape-language-e-jean-carroll
Article says the jury found trump liable for digital(fingers) penetration, but not for irrefutable non-consensual penetration using his penis, which is the only way to legally be found liable for "rape" in NY.
I have not watched or read a transcript of the trial yet, this is a true TIL.
She didn't have her contacts in; it could have been his penis or his pinky finger based on size.
Good ole Commander and Creep
Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up! tRump for prison 2023!
And beyond
Sooo... he's a rapist - as if we needed any confirmation of that.
The party line was that he technically wasn't accused of rape, and while I would have thought he was a rapist anyway, without the judge explicitly and publicly stating that Trump is a rapist， I would have never known from reading the articles about the trial.
If Lemmy had a bar exam, you would have just failed it with this post.
If lemmy was a needle, you'd be able to make a point.
Guess Lemmy for him is a golf game as he's clearly ahead in the sub par territory.
oh. please explain.