Anybody else feel so annoyed when western leftists say "It WaSn'T rEaL sOcIaLiSm" despite the massive evidence to the contrary?
Anybody else feel so annoyed when western leftists say "It WaSn'T rEaL sOcIaLiSm" despite the massive evidence to the contrary?
It was really annoying back when I was a rightist but it's even more frustrating now that I am a Marxist-Leninist that so-called "leftists" denounce pretty much every single successful socialist experience in history.
I'll bite. What successful socialist experiences are being denounced?
Western leftists often denounce all of them (Cuba, the DPRK, China, Vietnam, Laos, and the historical experiments), as well as the non-Marxist attempts at socialism like in Venezuela, despite never having achieved anything remotely close to socialism in their own countries
I'd argue that for several of the "experiences" on this list that success really depends on who you are and they aren't or weren't so great for everyone. And, certainly they all have socialist policies, but similar how it would be inaccurate to define the US as entirely capitalist, socialism isn't the only defining characteristic. China, for instance, is more strongly characterized by its fascism.
And the DPRK? By what measurement is this considered successful?
That said, I'm certainly not intimately familiar with all of them, and if socialism didn't have positive successes in the world I wouldn't support it.
Dislikes already coming I see. The libs must have spotted this post already.
it seems like this community ends up on "All" fairly frequently, we might need some new mods @felipeforte@lemmygrad.ml
What could mods do?