Gaza health ministry issues list of names of thousands killed in Israeli bombing
Gaza health ministry issues list of names of thousands killed in Israeli bombing
Access the list in Arabic: https://www.aljazeera.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/تقرير-نهائي-باسماء-الشهداء-2.pdf
Transparency in the face of accusations that the death toll is inflated. I'm interested to hear what comes of this
The list has people's full names of four sections (for those who don't know how it works in Arab naming systems): your first name, your father's name, his fathers name, and the family name (read more here). Married women keep their own full name and don't inherent their husband's, so people's wife's would have a different last name.
Arabic goes from right to left, so the names furthest to the left are the family name. The first two pages of the spreadsheet all have people from the same family.
And their ID card numbers, which can be indexed to the existing systems that The Israeli government controls.. and I imagine also that the US has access to.
So now to prove that Hamas is lying about the death toll, they just have to find one person on this list who is still alive and put them on television. Seems easy enough, considering that all the cell phones in Gaza strip are easily monitored.
Sorry I don't mean to imply they have to prove the Hamas is lying, it's just a great PR opportunity, so they won't pass it up if they have that capability
Nothing. Biden will do anything to aid and abet the bloodbath because it's in the US military and economic interests to do so. Palestine is approaching final solution levels of genocide but this time there won't be anyone coming to stop it.
It's accused of being inflated by two sources that have decisively proven to be definitively untrustworthy, the US and Israel
Edit: and obviously their allies and supports
Just a reminder, that every Gaza official represents Hamas.
Literally the first word in the article.
Hamas on Thursday released a list of almost 7,000 names of Gazans it said had been killed in Israeli strikes after the US president cast doubt on its toll figures
I think the implication of your comment is these are fictitious deaths, but clearly people are dying there
Because people won't trust them, they releasing the names and the ID card numbers, which the Israelis control (The ID card system) so that the names of the dead can be verified as actual real human beings.
Yes and who gives a fuck? Israel is turning every man, woman, and child in the strip into dust over a single attack they not only instigated but also ALLOWED to happen. I'm no longer playing this "but hamas" bullshit - you all never cared and just want to see innocents suffer.
Just a reminder, Hamas is the name of the government in Gaza. What you are (maybe) trying to say is, "The government of Gaza is one part of Hamas and the Qassam brigades are the other militant part, altogether they are called Hamas after the winning party".
Journalists have confirmed and shown a large number of these deaths. People are being buried in mass graves whether these numbers are from "Gaza officials that represent Hamas" or not.
When Israel says it wants to "eradicate Hamas", that would include the civil bodies that run the government and serve people, anything from the ministers to the government clerks. I wouldn't be surprised if Israel just thinks of doctors as Hamas actors too.
Yes, we should not blanket-trust numbers from an organization that has committed atrocities, but like @jet@jet@hackertalks.com said:
I think the implication of your comment is these are fictitious deaths, but clearly people are dying there
When Israel says it wants to “eradicate Hamas”, that would include the civil bodies that run the government and serve people, anything from the ministers to the government clerks.
If Hamas wanted to distance themselves from the intentional targeting civilians, they have had every chance to do so. But their stated goal is not to "eradicate the government of Israel", it's to "eradicate all Jews living in Palestine". The goals of the Qassam Brigades explicitly call out using violence to do achieve that goal.
Do you have more nazi comments to share, or is this your personal best?
Lol. Lmao, even. That, in itself, is not a nazi comment.
I think in a few hours it will be available on more websites in English, and that's also why I posted the link from Aljazeera Arabic.
Here are the stats as an info graph on the Gaza Health ministry website: https://www.moh.gov.ps/portal/احصائيات-العدوان-الإسرائيلي-على-قطاع/
Best wait till some other credible source pick up the news, someone got banned for posting multiple news from such source, even when other news site is reporting the same news.