Apple says BMW wireless chargers really are messing with iPhone 15s

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It apparently affects some Toyota Supras too.

Apple says BMW wireless chargers really are messing with iPhone 15s::An Apple memo to authorized repair providers reportedly says BMW and Toyota Supra wireless chargers can disable iPhone 15 NFC chips.

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Apple says BMW wireless chargers really are messing with iPhone 15s - The Verge

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maybe BMW can introduce a monthly fee to disable features!
They’ll probably just tell people to deal with it and not use an iphone with a bmw like what they tell motorcycle riders
- What's this about motorcycles?
  
  If people mount their phone on a motorcycle the parts for images stabilization and optical zoom (moving parts) can break, because of the potential vibrations a motorcycle can have.
  
  Though this isn’t just a iPhone issue.
  
  If you mount your phone to your motorcycle the vibrations can mess up the tiny motors that are in the camera to make it focus.
  
  The vibrations fuck with the phone.
- Did you read the article? They’re working on a fix
  
  Of course. its more of a jab at what happened before
There is a software update in the works for this, but BMW is probably equally at fault, their wireless chargers have sucked since they introduced them. All they do is heat up the phone and they don’t actually charge them. I had one in my 2020 BMW, and didn’t bother ordering it for my 2022, and there have been complaints for years on one of the largest BMW forums, bimmerpost.
- I hope you're talking about a second vehicle and not replacing your car every 2 years. I replace my phone less frequently than that.
  
  Someone’s gotta make all those 2-3 year old certified pre owned vehicles.
  
  Likely a lease in that case. Common practice for people that like always driving the newest cars. It's a bit more expensive than buying, and you don't end up owning a car. But significantly cheaper than renting. So you do have to be in a position where it's worth the cost to you.
  
  Why? I love being able to buy a 2 year old BMW for the same price as an equivalent Renault
This is the best summary I could come up with:

Users have been reporting that their iPhone 15’s NFC chips were failing after using BMW’s in-car wireless charging, but until now, Apple hasn’t addressed the complaints.

That seems to have changed as MacRumors reported this week that an Apple internal memo to third-party repair providers says a software update later this year should prevent a “small number” of in-car wireless chargers from “temporarily” disabling iPhone 15 NFC chips.

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Users have been complaining about BMW wireless chargers breaking Apple Pay and the BMW digital key feature in posts on Reddit, Apple’s Support community, and MacRumors’ own forums.

BMW seemed to acknowledge the issue early this month when the BMW UK X account replied to a complaint earlier this month saying the company is working with Apple to investigate the issue.

There’s no easy way to know which models are affected, so for now, if you have a BMW or a Toyota Supra with a wireless charger, it’s probably best to just avoid using it until the problem is fixed.

The Verge has reached out to Apple, BMW, and Toyota for a statement, but did not hear back by press time.

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Sounds like an apple problem, so fuck m. Stop buying apple products asshole!
Let's get something clear: a wireless charger CANNOT disable an NFC chip. They are two VASTLY DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES.

A wireless charger is nothing more than a wire coil hooked up to electricity. That's it. No smarts involved.

BMW must likely have an NFC chip also mounted in the same place which for some reason is disabling the NFC on the iPhone.

Maybe it's trying to take a reading off the chip but after a while the iPhone disables the NFC because it doesn't recognise the request? Or maybe Apple haven't properly programmed properly? Who knows?
- Disagree.
  
  They can't do it through software, but a wireless charger is inducing a current in a coil. NFC chips often use a coil antennal, and inducing a current in that could well trip a protective device, like a resettable fuse. It could be limited to these devices because of a particular resonance or harmonic they share
  
  It's still VERY odd. Virtually every phone that has NFC and wireless charging have the 2 very close to each other. The charging coil is normally in the middle of the phone and the NFC a little above it.
  
  If there was a real chance that the NFC could EASILY be affected by a wireless charger, the engineers would not place the 2 so close together.
  
  Clearly something is up with Apple or BMW has got something else going on in there.
  
  Hopefully we'll find out.
  
  Not that I care, I use Android and it works properly.

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