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devou(rule)ing
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It doesn't have to make sense to others, but if the thing that makes you happy is harmful to others, like eating your own child (which is an... interesting? choice to illustrate this specific point. E: and as pointed out bellow, a deliberate one), others absolutely do have a right and even responsibility to stop you.
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(go vegan)
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I think in this case it is more apt to realize that the artist painted this on the wall of his dining room in his house where he never had any visitors. The definition of "happiness" in this context would have to be a tad....malleable though.
Although he initially decorated the rooms of the house with more inspiring images, in time he painted over them all with the intensely haunting pictures known today as the Black Paintings. Created without commission for private display, these paintings may reflect the artist's state of mind late in a life that witnessed the violence of war and terror stoked by the Spanish Inquisition.
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I hate to do this, but I gotta.
What about religion? There are atheists who don't understand why people seek religion, but the basis of believing in God is not harmful to others. So why the anti-theism in so many subs here?
To take this even further, you say others have a responsibility to stop you from harming/killing your child. To extend this further, this can be taken to say that others have a responsibility to prevent aborting a healthy fetus.
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The anti-theism is in reaction to the terrible shit justified by religion.
Edit: posted early on accident.
Edit 2: I personally believe people's morals shouldn't require unprovable belief in the afterlife to work. Religious people often argue that religion is necessary for morality, but an agnostic approach is the only one people should live by.
If you sincerely believe you can be denied eternal life by going against God's will, keeping others from committing sin is a rational, moral thing to do. You're saving them by outlawing homosexuality or other similar shit. However, there's no evidence that God even exists, let alone what he wants you to do or that he can grant eternal life. Therfore, we should make sure our morality works without the existence of higher powers we have no way of detecting.
Belief in things that don't affect our material world can make behaviors that cause great harm seem rational. There are amazing people with strong faith, and terrible people with none at all. I just recognize that our common ethical principles cannot be determined by unfalsifiable ideas. Laws shouldn't be guided by religion.
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Saturn's face always looked very unhappy to me in this picture, like, he is deeply in anguish about what he's doing. How can anyone see anything other than horror and sadness in those eyes?
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Mostly yes, but with some imagination he could also have the expression of someone being caught mid act, and kind of having a scared/awkward ‘ow fuck, what do I do now’ look.
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It could also represent a sort of bewildered frenzy where he's just overwhelmed by compulsion.
Or possibly the moment where he realized something slipped down his windpipe.
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I dont see horror and sadness. I see more of like a cat looking at me like "dont mind me" but watching me regardless.
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Its fear. He does not particularly want to eat his children, but he fears the curse of succession. Any child of his is an immediate and grave threat to his dominion.
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That painting makes a lot of sense when you consider that Goya was loosing his mind while painting it.
Not sure about the happy part. But yeah, the message is a good one.
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Is ir a good message? Some people have a lot of joy in molesting people in church. That doesn't make much sense to me, but if it makes them happy.
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Counterpoint, liking children
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Couterpoint to eating human bodies?
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Parents: I don't think so
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This is actually ridiculous
- People are frequently judgmental of what others enjoy, and it can be harmful (kinkshaming) but it can also just help us find more enjoyable things to do, it can feed ego and hedonism.
- Other groups of people love to share details about what they enjoy.
"You shouldn't care what other people think" is almost literally bad advice because its so vague.
Perhaps... You can choose to ignore what others say about the things you enjoy, you can decide to keep it a secret, or you can use other people to help find answers to life's never ending question: "How can I have a good time?"
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I don't know what it is about this painting, but it's always caught my interest.
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Nerdwriter (on YouTube) has a good essay on this series of paintings. I like a lot of his art videos.
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I truly truly want to understand this.
I cannot understand what motivates this post.
I’m obsessed with typewriters and I do not give a fuck if it makes sense to anyone else.
Honestly.
So I simply don’t understand why anyone cares if something that makes them happy makes sense to anyone.
What is this preoccupation?
Truly.
Example: I’m pretty certain even this question will not make sense to some people. That’s not on me. It’s on them.
But for the author of the meme and for the people that this query makes sense to: why?
Why this meme.
Is it saying that if I am an ancient and eternal god and it makes me happy to eat my children, it is permissible for me to eat my children?
Because regardless of how happy it makes you to eat your children, it’s not okay.
And clearly I get that the idea here is not the promotion of children eating, but I have zero idea what it is promoting, supporting, or critiquing. Consider me out of the loop. What does this mean, and more importantly, why?
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