Obama says people need to acknowledge complexity of Israel-Palestinian conflict to move forward

Sadly, there is no way forward. The leaders of both sides want the complete elimination of the other.

He also said:

If you want to solve the problem, then you have to take in the whole truth. And you then have to admit nobody’s hands are clean

which is something I totally agree on. There is no "good or bad" team in the Middle East...all parties are involved in this conflict and it's cause!

Could we have this guy back, please?

High school never ends [for now]. Remember that, people.

And when you distill complex conduct into easy bites about said high schoolers, the other high schoolers of the world will take high schooler level actions.

Perhaps we need a more educated world to move forward...

Reddit probably rotted my brain, but I'm struggling to determine how this is anything but "everyone sucks here." On this matter, I don't think anyone has been truly in the right in a century. Can anyone provide a convincing argument otherwise?

If the entire holy land was nuked and radioactive, people would still try to occupy the wasteland so they could get back in first. Don't think there is a solution

It's actually pretty easy if you stop requiring support for settler colonialism. The rest of the world left that behind 70 years ago. Israel doesn't get to be special they can either give Palestinians voting rights (which would obliterate the idea of a Jewish state) or submit to a UN peacekeeping force between them and the Palestinians on the 1949 borders.

The only reason this is hard is because we keep bending over backwards to support their Apartheid. We know these answers. They've been done before.

The complexity is that Israel (specifically Netanyahu has gone rouge, saying nothing will stop what they are doing) and that is starting to have consequences for Democrats, and the US world image. This, along with Blinkens recent statements, are a subtle way of telling them to stop, without Biden going back on his full support of Israel.

It is the foundations of deniability, so that if the critiques of war crime and genocide come fully to light in the public eye, the US has ground to shift to. Those drones capturing footage over Gaza can quickly be used to support whatever narrative shift the US deems most advantageous. Can the Dems lose support of Arab Americans and their allies? Can/will they lose Jewish support at home if crimes are unmasked and is that number more or less than being on the "right side" of things?

These are likely the questions that are swirling around the White House and State Department as we speak. Time is of the essence, as 2.5 million people are on the verge of succumbing to dehydration and starvation. If those distributions are equal, a heart breaking cataclysm, in the form of a mass casualty event, could occur at any time. 10,000. 100,000. Who knows how many won't be able to be saved even once aid comes through. Medical capacity is needed to reverse these things and none exists any longer. The UN is warning of this.

If it happens, blame will need to be swift to maintain appearances and Israel is running the risk of becoming the "Voldemort" of the Middle East overnight.

There are complex issues to solve, sure, but there's nothing complicated about the fact that we need to let humanitarian aid in and stop killing children, right this fucking minute. There are no excuses for what is happening right now.

"Genocide is bad and we should halt donated weapons to countries committing genocide" - very easy policy most people will agree on.

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Ok, it's get real time: the ONLY reason the US supports Israel is because it's a staging area if shit kicks off in the middle east. That's it. The "Jesus" stuff if just an excuse to appease the zealots. And my opinion isn't anti-Semitism. It's anti-genocide.

Probably one of the most complex issues that I don't see being brought up is Gaza's culture built around Sharia law.

Yeah, there are plenty of innocent people are children suffering. This still doesn't mean that if Gazans had there way, Israel would be a better place.

That said, the US should end all aid to Israel and let them fund their own genocide. They can afford it. They have a fucking intel fab for fuck's sake.

'we didn't realise they were going to use the weapons like that'

More breaking news. Obama says breathing is good for your health.

The problem is that no American has any credibility: historically fucking over poor and indigenous communities has been an average Tuesday for the US. There is no path out of this that makes anyone happy. Killing people is never okay and trying to justify it based upon "complexity" is insulting. Fuck religious zealots.

Christopher Hitchens made an argument regarding the religious undertones of the conflict and why peace cannot easily be found. https://piped.video/watch?v=rc90pcx6kNU

Of course, by this point there's also hate passed on from one generation to the next.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Former President Barack Obama said a way forward for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is only possible if people acknowledge the “complexity” of the situation.

“If there’s any chance of us being able to act constructively to do something, it will require an admission of complexity and maintaining what on the surface may seem contradictory ideas that what Hamas did was horrific, and there’s no justification for it.

And … that the occupation and what’s happening to Palestinians is unbearable,” Obama said in an interview on the podcast “Pod Save America.”

The former president’s comments come as the Israeli military focuses its offensive against Hamas in Gaza City and northern parts of the enclave.

Behind the scenes, American officials also believe there is limited time for Israel to try to accomplish its stated objective of taking out Hamas in its current operation before uproar over the humanitarian suffering and civilian casualties reaches a tipping point.

If you genuinely want to change this … you’ve got to figure out how to speak to somebody on the other side and listen to them and understand what they are talking about and not dismiss it,” Obama said.

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Fuck Israel. They get a free pass every time.

If he is talking about the complexity of the human, tribal brain, I agree.

It feels like Israel uses its own population as a buffer between the IDF and hamas. That and the sheer audacity to have a concert right next to Gaza was a recipe for disaster that Israel took advantage of for its own ambitions. It's certainly short sighted to think Israel and the US can get rid of hamas. The US should have learned this lesson in Iraq when they created a vacuum after they removed sadam. Palestine definitely has the world's favor right now and hamas would be smart to play on that

former drone striker in chief trying to remind us of his legacy of absolutely failing to acknowledge, let alone tackle, the role of US imperialism in the middle east.

The world needs to stsrting usiing proper words: what Israel is trying to achieve in Palestine is an Holocaust.

yeah yeah it's complex. Apartheid in South Africa, Nazism was also rocket science.

Seriously, you Americans had one great president. He also seems plenty young (when compared to other presidents) enough to be one again. Can't you elect him again or something? He needs more time as boss to do his thing.

Obama, be trolling

uh yeah. no. what people need to acknowledge is that israel shouldn't be there and that dipshits shouldn't use the bible to create nations. how the fuck did you think it would turn out. blood blood blood

this f**king joke has no right to tell anyone how to move forward

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/jill-stein-2012-debate-arrest-hofstra-university/

his solutions for peace involved chaining people to chairs for wanting equal rights

If Obama was a normal Israeli citizen and said this, he would be in jail right now for "enemy propaganda".

And for those of you saying he would be dead after saying this in Gaza about Hamas, I think Hamas would be a bit busy to cary out that threat.

It's not. The only reason to pretend it is to support Israel's apartheid state.

They've had 2500 years to work this shit out. The past is dead men's baggage. Stop carrying it.

What's the complexity?

Again, Obama can screw off with these comments because Biden is doing what he would've done in the exact same situation.

Should have acknowledged it as president when he had the chance.

I still can't believe this doofus won a Nobel peace prize for accomplishing nothing of value in Afghanistan.