Dozens of health organizations pledge ‘full support’ for federal ban on menthol cigarettes and flavored cigars

When are we going to start banning flavored alcohol like White Claw and Mike's while we're at it

I have maybe a cigar a month. Sometimes, a nice dipped cigar is enjoyable. It’d be a shame to just outright ban them.

Urgh, when they banned them in my country it was with this same stupid logic.

Now I don't smoke (quit 15ish years ago) but this idea that anything flavoured somehow MUST be for the purpose of marketing towards children is insane. It manages to be wrong in two opposite ways:

One: This implies that anything with flavor is not for adults and everyone over the age of majority goes home to enjoy our grey flavourless mush.

Two: This implies that the flavors involved must be what appeals most to children. You know those menthol and whisky tipped smokes that all the children go nuts for.

This logic falls apart (both ways) when you look at any other legal market like booze, weed or vape.

It is almost as if after the US lost the war on drugs they want to try again on a smaller scale.

This is hypocrisy. Let people smoke whatever they want. We're not living in the fifties, everybody and their mother knows nicotine kills.

What they don't get is that not everybody has a wonderful life and wants to live forever.

There are bans in place for kids, and adults should have the right to decide what they want. Ban flavoured alcohol too then.

People who think smokers smoke for the flavor are not in touch with reality. This will do nothing for public health.

Like every time this comes up, this is straight up racism.

If they actually cared about protecting children, they'd put quality control restrictions on the fluids used in vape pens to prevent popcorn lung and the like BECAUSE KIDS DON'T REALLY SMOKE CIGARETTES ANYMORE.

You know who disproportionately smokes menthols and flavored cigarellos?

Black people.

If they actually had something against smoking, they'd ban ALL CIGARETTES.

If they were actually trying to protect kids, they'd go after what kids are using.

They're going after the smoke of choice for large portions of the black community.

What does that tell you?

If we don't stand with smokers and stop the American Heart Association now, then by the time it comes to force us to eat right and exercise, it'll be too late.

Sigh. The only good drugs are the ones I take.

Let's stop policing what people put in their bodies, eh?

Non-menthol cigs are fine, we just can’t stand for the ones black people prefer.

You can't legislate morality, this isn't going to make people smoke less it will make people grumpy while smoking

When they banned flavored cigarettes where I am, they had to make a carveout for menthol cigarettes. The claim at thie time was, banning menthol was racist because black people mostly smoke menthols. Early aughts ftr.

Or you know, we could just regulate and test what goes into these products rather than create another black market for ones that will only inevitably be produced with even less quality overseas and imported

What the fuck?

I don’t smoke but isn’t flavored vape essentially the same and that is legal?

There are flavoured cigars?

Alcohol causes more problems in society than tobacco.

Okay, hear me out here. We should ban smoking meat next. Just the stuff that has been marinated or seasoned. You know, for the kids.

It's like people in this thread don't realize how massively addictive nicotine is? I see addicts all the time try to excuse their addictions with every excuse in the book. I was addicted once. It took every part of my soul to quit that shit. nicotine is a mistake many make and don't come back from and pretend it their choice shit should be band. Just due to it's addictive nature. Banned for the same reason lotterys are generat only owned by the state. Shits is a a great investment. People will kill themselves or others to give you money