Labor is entitled to all it creates

Where meme?

ah yes, someone who thinks “meme” == “joke” …
- Not necessarily, but this is literally just an old propaganda poster. (not that I disagree)
Where my fellow mammals at

So, honest question:

If labor would get the value of their production, but we still live in this capitalist hellscape, wouldn't the logical conclusion be that the owning class should take out rent for the tools and premises?

Or how would qualified tradespeople get access to tools and facilities to make factories?

And how would you price marketing, lobbying, procurement, and other supporting roles? If they should also be entitled to their labor, do they get some kind of profit share?

And how does intellectual property work? Are ideas worthless and only execution matter? Or does the architect, the project manager, the engineer, the scientist, get some kind of royalties?

I've seen the propaganda for so long I just never reflected upon it against today's knowledge based and networked economy, and now I find I don't even know how it would apply.

It's not that each individual person needs to directly get the monetary value of their production in pay. The point is that instead of an owning class getting the profits and the workers a nominal pay, it is the workers who own their place of work, and the profits are divided among everybody.

This is already a thing, worker cooperative.
- Thank you, I can at least understand worker cooperatives, as well as family businesses, homesteads, communes like convents and the like, from a maintenance perspective.
  
  It might be that I'm too poisoned by capitalist thinking, and presupposing capitalist solutions to capitalist problems, but I welcome perspectives, even of my own blindness.
  
  But say we want to create a new electric car manufacturer. This requires a wide range of specialties, tools and coordination.
  
  Would the worker co-op need to buy all the things needed to even get started? Or how does investment happen? Or is it that risk capitalists should exit not by selling to the stock market, but the laborers?
  
  Ah, duh, that's how bank loans work, I see now.
  
  I still don't understand how this applies to intellectual property though, the person who designed the car, do they only get paid for the design as long as they co-own the company? How does it work for the pilot project engineer, are they not entitled to part of the profits from the subsequent production runs that are arguably the fruit of their labor?
  
  And how do we compensate the scientists discovering the fundamental principles that require decades of work to implement, but then transform society?
  
  I'm thinking Babbage/Lovelace creating the computer, whoever discovered concrete, quantum physicists, but also those who provide support for work like road layers, city planners, and teachers.
- How do new cooperatives form then? Who fronts the materials to start a new endeavor?
Labor getting all that it creates (positive and negative) would mean that all firms would be structured as democratic worker coops

In the strictest, dawkins sense, this is a meme. But god damn i'm tired of getting hit with politics every place i look.

“People often say, with pride, ‘I’m not interested in politics.’ They might as well say, ‘I’m not interested in my standard of living, my health, my job, my rights, my freedoms, my future, or any future.’ … If we mean to keep any control over our world and lives, we must be interested in politics.”

—Martha Ellis Gellhorn
- Try "I visit some places to escape and wind down.".
Truly the worst thing about privilege is remembering other people don't have it
- it's more about fatigue, and that leads to apathy. But of course, because i don't want to go 150mph all the time, i'm a bad person.
- Hey there friend, I see you're unhappy about people making everything about politics. I'm going to go ahead and make this conversation about politics, because you're a bad person so fuck you.
The main feed here is worse than Reddit when it comes to anti capitalism. Like every 3 or fourth post across the fediverse is some version of 'capitalism bad lets eat the rich'.

The rest is Linux related content
- This meme's community is from a Solarpunk instance, which is somewhat inherently political, and is very much Anarchist. We're not big fans of capitalism here.

For an economically rigorous version of this argument, see: https://www.ellerman.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/REEM-paper2.pdf

This is not a meme, go post in a political community

doesn’t notice this whole instance is political …
- Indeed I didn't! Thanks for pointing it out, I'll just block the whole instance :)

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Project management is a type of labor. Workers can, of course, delegate decision making to project managers as long as these managers are ultimately democratically accountable to the entire body of workers in the company
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The divide is commonly not between laborer/other, but between the working and owning classes.

All those you mention are typically included in those who should be entitled to the fruits of their labor.

For profit landlords, venture capitalists, bankers, stock owners, etc. are typically those classed as leeching off of those performing the labor.
Lol
- You can't build something with only labour. It takes organization. Give a crew plans to build something and someone will have to step up from that crew and manage things, all of a sudden that one guy is no longer labour he's management.

I need my boss to sign my paychecks.

that’s some flunky down in payroll, not your boss
Fiat paper isn't real. It's nothing more than a complete delusion swindling you and your entire time in life being stolen by people who do NOT work. EVER.

Love the poster but this isn't remotely it meme. Thirsty for upvotes that badly?

Not a meme. Straight up propaganda. 🤦‍♀️.

🌎🧑‍🚀 Wait, all propaganda are memes?

🔫🧑‍🚀 Always have been
No no you see a meme is not suppose to be funny, it's suppose to educate you -OP