NYT: "The Tunnels of Gaza. How the subterranean maze below the Gaza Strip works."

It really is fucking 2001 all over again

The best part about this is it insinuates the bombings of the surface are basically pointless aside from terror.

yep just a totally normal looking city up top, no need to interrogate why there's a literally underground resistance movement beneath this city

The West never got over Vietnam

Joining Hamas since they're the only ones prepared to deal with climate catastrophe:

Can we get Hamas to do subway construction for cheap?

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Artist depiction of hamas

65 feet is roughly the height of a 6 floor apartment building.

Disappointed there wasn't a prone Saddam thrown in there somewhere.

if the 65 feet thing is accurate, thats fucking impressive considering the lack of construction equipment and concrete

So the thing I don't get with this "secret invisible tunnel network" bullshit is that if Hamas has built a series of tunnels so deep underground they are unaffected by bombs and missiles striking the buildings above, why the fuck does Israel keep bombing all their buildings?

I kinda wish I got hired to draw pictures of cool underground bases

A comment at NYT.

It seems to me, as a retired geophysicist, that they could use seismic sounding techniques to find the tunnels. Secondly, the fact that it is murderously hard to find the tunnels, and root out the terrorists hiding in them/using them, is no excuse to instead bomb apartments, refugee camps, and hospitals above them. There is just no excuse for that, that allows you to retain any moral authority. Instead, you become, as bad as they are.

I would use seismic wave detection techniques, and gas or otherwise poison them in the tunnels. And overwhelm them with wave after wave of onslaught from all entrance directions that doesn’t kill the people above. Despite the troop losses.

The fact that the Israeli state believes that they have the sole right to the land of Israel based on their history and faith does not mean that the people who had been living on that land prior to the Israelis pushing them out in the late 40s have any less valid claim. Pushing people off the land they have been living on for years is also known as forced relocation, which is a war crime.

65 year old woman, former republicans now long term democrat, not religious, and not at all comfortable with my tax dollars supporting the murder of people in Gaza.

And, obviously, Hamas are terrorists and what they did on 10/7 was horrific - as is the violence and land grabbing by settlers in the West Bank, and what the Israelis did to the Palestinians in the late 40s.

Neither side has clean hands here - nor do we.

I always wanted a lair like that. Only thing missing are pits with lava and some spike traps.

We all know that the NYt is a rag on the level of dDailymail and pure propaganda. But how fucking stupid are liberals that they slobber up this steaming pile of do shit the NYT regularly serves up

So Hamas gonna invade Israel like those lizard people in that one Dr Who episode, yeah?

Some settler gonna walk over a patch of ground and woosh, dragged into the underground by Hamas.

They should add a fire station pole and a pulley with a little bucket to put snacks in

More like 60 meters deep in some locations.

Couldn't they just raid, or toss bombs inside the entances and vent shafts to clear them out? Bunker busters are excessive, but we already knew that.

With what Hamas dug those tunnels will, of course, never be explained.

You know, if I was trying to target subterranean tunnels beneath a fucking city of civilians, I would also just bomb the buildings.

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