Recommentations about every aspect of keyboards?
Recommentations about every aspect of keyboards?
Hi all,
I've been typing on the first keyboard I ever bought for about 7 years now (Sharkoon Skiller Pro +) and, after trying out some of the shiny mechanical keyboards my friends bought over the years (Roccat Vulkan Pro, Steelseries Apex Pro, etc), decided I wanted a new keyboard as well.
I've done a little research on keyboards as a whole and have a few favorites, but recently I came across ergonomic keyboards, such as shown in this community. Now, I'm unsure wether I want to go with a traditional board (my top candidate is the Meletix Zoom98 with Morandi Switches) or try something completely different.
I'm looking for stories and advice right now, to get the most out of the money i'm willing to spend on a keyboard (buying multiple is not an option at the price point of for example the Zoom98).
Looking forward to this :)
- if you’re willing to put in build time, you can get ergo kits for a fair bit cheaper than assembled boards
- look for options with hotswap sockets – can reuse switches across boards without the hassle of desoldering
- socket the microcontroller – same reason, can reuse across boards after flashing with new firmware
- if you’re willing to take your time, you can stage things out as a progression (ie. don’t purchase everything at once)
- FoldKB – introduction to split and ortholinear but uses a standard set of keycaps (no hunting ortho, ergo, or 40s sets)
- Iris, Lily58, or Sofle RGB – “large” split ergos, introduction to a gentle columnar stagger
- Corne/CRKBD – the most popular mid-sized split ergo, easy to find kits, cases, or order your own PCBs
- Ferris Sweep, Swoop, DASBOB, KLOR, or Waterfowl – down into the realm of small ergo splits, much more focus on setting up firmware to meet your needs
- A. dux, Hummingbird, Totem, Flea, Piano – the field of hyper-specialized ergo splits (the fringe)
- FlatFootFox’s Design a Keyboard tutorial – learn enough Ergogen and KiCAD to design your own completely customized board
- Golem.hu’s Split keyboard database – pretty much the most extensive list of what’s out there (and just how large the field has grown)
This is all good advice but I would say if you're willing (and interested) to try a "40s" like board, the corne (at least in 6 column version) is fairly accessible and is very popular so looking for ideas about how to make your keymap won't be difficult. And also boardsource now has a fully assembled version of the corne (no soldering).
That is to say, cerement described a very reasonable progression, but if you don't mind feeling like you don't know how to type for a bit you can jump into anything that is interesting to you, and many folks agree that smaller boards are more comfortable to type on.
I must say It's daunting to reduce the amount of keys that much, since I'm used to full-size. Then again, I use the numpad mostly to control foobar2000 (music), which should be easily balanced with a thumb-activated additional layer in a board such as the corne. I can't seem to find the fully assembled version of the corne, but the unicorne is assemblable without soldering. Would you recommend low-profile switches? I have absolutely no experience typing on those so I'd be interested to know what the difference feels like.
- if you’re willing to put in build time, you can get ergo kits for a fair bit cheaper than assembled boards
I believe most people here with ergonomic keyboards have one either because they are already experiencing pain, or are trying to prevent it.
I got one trying to prevent it (Glove80), but I ended up liking the keyboard for other reasons.
It's much more comfortable for me, extremely customizable - Interchangeable keycaps, programmable with ZMK, easy to change the tilt and tent, etc.
And I ended up really liking the low profile choc switches.It depends on what you're looking for in a keyboard.
Well, there also are people like me, who use it because it's a productivity beast and being able to have control over everything while barely even moving your hands feels great. I never had much trouble with pain or discomfort unless I was typing with my full speed for extended periods. I tend to get tensed up easily, so then it was a problem. Otherwise, I was fine. Just wanted to see whether small keyboards are as cool as people make them. Hell yeah, they're even cooler.
I think getting a bigger ortho board like for example Atreus62 with the intention of removing keys and seeing what's your preferred layout is gonna be, is the best way to go about it. It's probably not gonna be your final board (endgame is a lie) so don't spend a fortune on it.
That's neat.
I've built a Sweep and a Fifi, which were very nice, but I found them too limiting. Especially for gaming.
Maybe with enough time it would've worked, I've seen people with some crazy layouts specifically optimized to their workflow. But the Glove80 also ended up being more comfortable so I'll be sticking to it.Next stage for me would be adding a pointing device to the keyboard and then I'm set.