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Lydia_K @startrek.website

1y ago

It's true.

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- She's even more badass in the books.
  
  Truth. I thought the show turned Naomi and Holden into twats but they did a pretty good job with Chrisjen. I’m still mad about the Arjun bamboozle. Arjun 1 is best Arjun.
- Yeah, I'm almost 40 and I wanna be Avasarala when I grow up
- Seconded. The Expanse is an untapped goldmine of strong characters and weirdness.
  
  Pity that the actor for Alex had to fuck it up for everyone.
- I chose a deeper cut Expanse reference, but in truth I'm Avasarala in public, Naomi in my heart

She is pretty much the best character on the show by virtue of being the best cast actor. Wow what a good choice. I give a close second to Amos.
- Also Drummer
- Thomas Jane was also fantastic. Same with Jared Harris. Shame they couldn't secure him for later appearances, his character is great and he did the belta accent so well.
  
  Jared Harris is great in everything.
- interesting. I haven't engaged in any online dialog about the expanse so maybe this is a super unpopular opinion but I felt the actor seemed really uncomfortable with the swearing and didn't start off as that kind of character and just weirdly changed one episode
  Amos on the other hand was incredible. He, Drummer, Draper and Miller really carried that show.
  
  If you watch interviews with the actress she's definitely not uncomfortable with swearing.

I like how every modern Star Trek show just ignores the silly idea that everyone has given up swearing in the 23rd and 24th century.
- Most trek shows were on primetime network television. Once they went to streaming, the swearing came back.
  Although, even during the primetime network era, we got plenty of alien swearwords, mostly in Klingon. One or two in Romulan.
  
  Yeah, but that was said in a movie where they could potentially have sweared as much as they wanted to. Or at least acknowledged that 'dumbass' wouldn't be some shocking thing to a guy from the future.
  
  I laughed out loud when Spock went "OH F...." and then they cut to the title in STNW.
  
  I like the old shows more because everyone acts appropriately to their rank and station. In the new shows a captain can go like "fuck this ima go punch someone and act super emotional and irrational" because that's what a star fleet captain or anyone star fleet would actually do.
  Right. And nobody cares because he's the best man for the job for some reason.
- You can hear O'Brien cuss up a storm under his breath if you turn your volume up really loud
  
  Not falling for that Kai Winn jumpscare again...
- The lack of swearing wasn’t originally part of the "utopian ideal", it was in fact censorship from the broadcasters.
  
  The universal translator autocorrect used to be turned up to high. Probably for the best.
  
  Yeah, you've kinda just gotta suspend your disbelief. I'm going back and watching House for the first time since it ended, and it is RIDICULOUS how much these characters don't swear at each other.

Best actress for the roll

She'd make a formidable Badmiral. Maybe they can get her for an episode of SNW
- Isn't she Bashir's mother?
  
  I looked it up. No, but Arjun is his dad!
  
  She was Commodore Paris in Star Trek Beyond. She might be the (great?) grandmother of Tom Paris.
  
  Not as far as I know

She sounds like it hurts to talk
- So you know she means it.
- That's what happens when you smoke three packs a day.
- I totally agree tho
  She's a girlboss though
- She sounds like she came out of the womb actively smoking. And I love her for it.

This feels like something that could be brought up on Lower Decks.

I hate her so much she was almost enough to stop watching my favourite show.
Her voice and her character are terribly grating.

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