If you have ADHD you will often have depression stemming from the experience of your life under ADHD, in the manner described in the post.
If you have depression as your primary issue, the problem of not getting things done is not usually due to distraction or executive dysfunction in the way that it is for ADHD. It's more likely due to mental and emotional fatigue and feelings of uselessness/hopelessness, which then manifest as executive dysfunction.
The two problems are often co-morbid - appearing together. What makes the distinction is which of the two issues is primary. Are you depressed because of your executive dysfunction, or are you exhibiting characteristics of executive dysfunction because you're depressed?
There is a lot of overlap in symptoms and in my experience a lot of ADHD adults (maybe especially women) are (mis)diagnosed as depressed before getting ADHD diagnoses and on medications. There can be some differences, like symptoms being continuous throughout your life despite not feeling depressed, having periods of hyper focus, or areas that you excel in.
I usually hate doing the "please read this article," but I think this piece describes really well the challenges faced by people with ADHD because if their lack of executive function. Important quote:
Tasks in the neurotypical world have a beginning, a middle, and an end. Individuals with ADHD don’t know where and how to start, since they can’t find the beginning. They jump into the middle of a task and work in all directions at once.
And I would add to that - if they jump in at all. A person with depression may not be folding their laundry because they cannot get out of bed. A person with ADHD may be up and around and doing a bunch of things but not the things they need to be doing, like folding laundry, because they don't know where to start, and it's way too overwhelming.
Then, it's also possible to have depression and ADHD, especially since being neurodivergent can be fucking depressing. Then it's a double whammy.
There is some overlap, but it’s different in how they play out internally. With depression it’s usually a pack of energy or motivation to do it, whereas with ADHD there may be plenty of energy (and even motivation) but there’s an inability to stop and change gears. There’s usually an internal struggle of “I really need to do that” but being incapable of actually making the decision to do so.
I remember things when I can't do anything about it. Stepping over the laundry I forgot to start, but now I am in a hurry to go somewhere and don't have time. I remember that I forgot to start the dishes after getting to work.
Add some anxiety in. They can also be interrelated to a high degree. I'm diagnosed with adhd and anxiety and on pills to keep the depression from killing me. Therapist wanted to focus on the anxiety because it may be at the core of all of it.
It's constant and relentless. I am what some people call "gifted" but it never really feels that way. I have a good job that bores me to death and a battle so hard all day to make it work. I'm good at lots of different things, from programming, to music production, to writing, to building things, but I can't devote any meaningful amount of time to any of them, and I neglect all the important aspects of my life. My physical and mental health are fucked, I'm in debt for no good reason, and at this point I think my adhd meds make it worse, but if I don't take them I'm basically in a comatose state. It's honestly no wonder that we're statistically likely to die 10 years earlier than average.
I think work is the reason that you are unable to devote a meaningful amount of time to things that energize you.
If society was structured so that we didn't need to work/grow constantly, we would have so much more time to tap into the vibrations of the universe and create art/music.
Today it was supposed that I should be studying during the afternoon/evening. Instead, I'm doing nothing but thinking about me studying, incapable of performing that action.
I'm supposed to read these 3 in-depth research articles before a 2-day training that starts tomorrow, and I haven't even begun looking at them. The inner panic is real. Yet here I am on lemmy...
All I know is if we shame ourselves, it will get worse and we will be more paralyzed into inaction. My rule is, if I can't get to positive self-talk, I aim for neutral. So, instead of "omg, you're such a piece of shit, why can't you just do this like a normal fucking person" I might say to myself "OK, you are struggling to do what you need to do. It's not ideal and it's also explained by your neurodivergent brain. You're not lazy, but you also can't sit there completely frozen. What's one tiny step you can take towards your goal?"
I'm not saying it works 100% of the time, but it's certainly better than sitting in shame and putting yourself on blast.
Thanks for sharing this. It's something I need to remind myself more often.
The older I get and the more responsibilities I acquire, the harder I get on myself about the daily struggles to remember or have the motivation to do the things I need to do.
ADHD is tough, and life does not slow down or wait for us. I hear you on acquiring more responsibilities with age and not being able to "adult" well. That's why self-kindness is so important. I don't know you, but I bet you are doing your best.
I just need to tidy, but have lost the ability to do basic household tasks. I'm never going to have any money, and I really do mean any money. I don't need to be rich but I'm not enjoying life in the slightest.
But never mind, at least I can rely on people online to call me privileged because of my genitals and skin colour.