EU states can ban religious symbols in public workplaces

Please start with banning crosses as wall decoration in bavarian public authorities

How about crosses in public institutions? Asking for a (bavarian) friend.

In Italy I was a member of UAAR (The Union of Rationalist Atheists and Agnostics) and we supported the legal costs of people battling against crucifixes in the workplace, compulsory prayers and even acoustic pollution caused by the church bells. This was in the late '90s to early '00s.

Sounds fair to me, we need less religion everywhere.

What I don't get is the right wing pushing this and the left wing being against it, while the hero of the far left said 'Religion is the opium of the masses.'

Good, fuck religion. The earlier we get rid of that shit, the earlier we can unify as a species.

I’m not sure a hijab is a religious symbol. It’s just a covering worn for religious reasons. The hijab doesn’t have a fixed design or pattern that makes it significantly different from what western women wore in the fifties.

And if you can’t go out in public dressed like Sophia Loren, what even is the point of western civilization?

Good. Religion is like a penis, you don't pull it out in public or at work.

can they ban you for wearing a necklace with a cross? or a scarf around your head? This is madness, what bad does it do to other people, this is like banning lgbtq people from kissing outside cause it makes others uncomfortable.

"It's not religious, I just don't like showing my hair."

In Spain religious symbols in public workplaces, official places and buildings are banned since years. You will see them only in religios buildings and churches, maybe in some old monuments.

So are headscarves for non-religious women going to be banned too? What about other modest clothing?

If I can't judge women by their cover, I'm gonna need them all to get naked.

How could I tell apart an islamic and an atheist headscarf? My mother often wore one in the 1960s and 70s, as was the fashion back then.

Link to original decision document for those who are interested

Religious symbols where they belong, in churches, temples and religious institutions, in public places, administrations, public libraries, schools and universities have absolutely nothing to do with, there they can result in offense or discrimination for people of another or no faith. Sad politicians making an oath on the Bible (in Spain they do it on the constitution, without additions like "with the help of God"). Religion is a true social backwardness, the proof is theocracies, there are none in the world where basic human rights are respected and where social progress is possible.

What defines public work place? If the church get tax breaks for being non-profit aren't they consider public?

Now do it on Zionist symbols please

I'll have a triple large double popcorn while Italy get this...

Religion is so 00 B.C. Oldschool, but also it gives some poor people hope some times.

• "Justice exists to record legally, ritually control made by the cops to normalize people" Michel Foucault
• tl;dr : acab

This is the best summary I could come up with:

The Court of Justice (ECJ) ruling came after a Belgian woman alleged the local municipality where she worked had infringed her religious freedom by telling her she couldn't wear a hijab.

The latest case arrived at the court after a Muslim employee of the eastern Belgian municipality of Ans was told she could not wear a headscarf at work.

The municipality then amended its terms of employment, saying they required employees to observe strict neutrality, which means any form of proselytising is prohibited and the wearing of overt signs of ideological or religious affiliation is not allowed for any worker.

Hearing the case, the Labour Court in Liège said it was uncertain whether the condition of strict neutrality imposed by the municipality gave rise to discrimination contrary to EU law.

In August France's Education Minister Gabriel Attal said state school pupils would be banned from wearing abayas, loose-fitting full-length robes worn by some Muslim women.

The garment had been increasingly worn in schools leading to a political divide over them, with right-wing parties pushing for a ban while those on the left voicing concerns for the rights of Muslim women and girls.

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What about fashion choices?

Makes sense. In Turkey it's perfectly legal for an employer to restrict you from wearing a head covering. Belgium isn't an islamic country.

So what, I judge! Religion and displaying it in public is something an individual chooses. Having a different skin color or a foreign name is something one doesn't choose. So I will not judge.

I cannot read. When I first looked at this, I read, "I judge a woman by her cover" and was very confused.

Sure let's just ban religion. Ask the millions of people that died under Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and other leaders that banned religion. Or all of the people that died during the French Revolution. Yes I know that the Church had the Inquisition and the Crusades, during which millions died. The Bible is already considered "hate speech" in many countries. How long before being Christian, Muslim or whatever means you can't hold a job or buy a house?

Revelation 13:16-17 The Mark of the Beast

16And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name.

WTH just let people wear what they want, as long as it is not too revealing.

EU states have their own sets of laws, so it's not too surprising to me that the EU laws don't intervene in this case.

That municipality really showed their islamophobia by banning hijabs in this way, though.